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The overall tone reflects moderate engagement and curiosity, with discussions about the study's relevance, such as mentions of 'selection bias' and 'external validity,' and references to previous studies. Words like 'questioning,' 'criticize,' and 'supportive' show critical yet engaged attitudes, indicating a nuanced evaluation of the publication's significance in the field.
Discussions are mixed, with some critics questioning external validity and bias, while others reference supportive studies, indicating neither strong support nor disagreement overall.
The discussions show a moderate level of curiosity, particularly around the study's methodology, bias, and implications, but lack of deep technical detail limits higher interest.
Participants ask questions, reference other studies, and debate methodology, reflecting thoughtful engagement but not intense or highly detailed dialogue.
The conversations acknowledge the importance of the study's findings but largely focus on methodological critiques and theoretical implications rather than immediate clinical or societal change.
I really struggle to understand a lot of Mckenzie Method research that only includes subjects who respond to their directional preference methods to say directional preference is superior! Isn’t this obvious selection bias?
エビデンスに基づくケアよりも個人に基づくケアのほうが優れているということ。疾患に対してエビデンスでは「有効性がある」と文献が示しても目の前の患者が改善しないことはよくあること。症状を引き起こす原因がどこから起こっているのかを方向づけすることが重要だと理解。https://t.co/vwJcG73ePE
Strangely enough this is the only study of this type where people are tested prior to randomisation for treatment effect that is positive, then randomised. https://t.co/voyzCJ8s0f Does it Matter Which Exercise? A Randomized Control Trial of Exercise for Low Back Pain https://t.co/2tX6nloZlw
@adamjh95 @marklaslett_NZ If you see centralization of symptoms in the spine you can bet it’s discogenic. Direction of exercise matters https://t.co/ows6cy6eqx
@adamjh95 @marklaslett_NZ If you identify discogenic pain unresponsive to mechanics you might consider this study/center’s work on identifying better candidates for TESI and then taking another look at them post injection https://t.co/ows6cy6eqx
@GeekNfit @__PatK__ En fait, les McKenzistes s'agrippent très très fort à une étude de 2004, qui est bien construite mais manque de cohérence externe (c'est à dire que les résultats trouvés dans les autres études ne vont pas dans le même sens du tout). https://t.co/i92epYBlGG
A large study tested whether personalized exercises based on a patient's specific low back pain response can improve outcomes, finding that matching exercises to a person's pain response led to better pain relief, less…
Spine Phila Pa 1976 2004 Dec 129232593602 doi 10109701brs0000146464230072a Does it matter which exercise A randomized control trial of exercise for low back pain. The study highlights the benefits of tailoring exercises…
This video discusses a landmark study testing personalized exercises based on patients' specific low back pain responses, showing improved pain relief, reduced medication use, and faster recovery through tailored…
In conclusion, this study provides evidence that patient specific treatment is superior to others when you are able to find a DP and that some exercises can actually be counterproductive to relieving pain. 10.1097/01.brs.0000146464.23007.2a
@FFizzeo @marklaslett_NZ https://t.co/VHEA4kxPq6
Clinical Trial Spine (Phila Pa 1976) . 2004 Dec 1;29(23):2593-602. doi: 10.1097/01.brs.0000146464.23007.2a. Does it matter which exercise? A randomized control trial of exercise for low back pain Audrey Long 1, Ron Donelson, Tak Fung
参考論文 Clinical Trial Spine (Phila Pa 1976) . 2004 Dec 1;29(23):2593-602. doi: 10.1097/01.brs.0000146464.23007.2a. Does it matter which exercise? A randomized control trial of exercise for low back pain Audrey Long 1, Ron Donelson, Tak Fung
参考論文 Spine (Phila Pa 1976) . 2004 Dec 1;29(23):2593-602. doi: 10.1097/01.brs.0000146464.23007.2a. Does it matter which exercise? A randomized control trial of exercise for low back pain Audrey Long 1, Ron Donelson, Tak Fung
@GeekNfit @__PatK__ En fait, les McKenzistes s'agrippent très très fort à une étude de 2004, qui est bien construite mais manque de cohérence externe (c'est à dire que les résultats trouvés dans les autres études ne vont pas dans le même sens du tout). https://t.co/i92epYBlGG
RT @AdamMeakins: I really struggle to understand a lot of Mckenzie Method research that only includes subjects who respond to their directi…
RT @AdamMeakins: I really struggle to understand a lot of Mckenzie Method research that only includes subjects who respond to their directi…
Does it matter which exercise? A randomized control trial of exercise for low back pain https://t.co/QSWzkTBHLY
RT @AdamMeakins: I really struggle to understand a lot of Mckenzie Method research that only includes subjects who respond to their directi…
I really struggle to understand a lot of Mckenzie Method research that only includes subjects who respond to their directional preference methods to say directional preference is superior! Isn’t this obvious selection bias?
@adamdobson123 Here are two papers that indicate MDT based care is superior to other care for patients that showed a DP. Long 2014: https://t.co/VHEA4kxPq6 Long 2018: https://t.co/oHpJvH21Qg
@buzzastley @joshlavalleeMK Oui totalement, c'est fait par exemple dans l'étude de Long 2004, ils ont juste fait ça un poil trop tôt à mon sens, ils auraient, je crois, mieux fait d'attendre l'allocation des traitements https://t.co/i92epYBlGG
@AdamMeakins @marklaslett_NZ For "derangement" a couple of weeks usually does it. According to Long 2014: https://t.co/VHEA4kxPq6
@Retlouping @giovanni_ef @JSagorro Yes this is a bad trial. MDT has another one that is similar to this that is much larger and also a bad trial. They report baseline characteristics in table 3 and results in table 6
Strangely enough this is the only study of this type where people are tested prior to randomisation for treatment effect that is positive, then randomised. https://t.co/voyzCJ8s0f Does it Matter Which Exercise? A Randomized Control Trial of Exercise for Low Back Pain https://t.co/2tX6nloZlw
@BarryPhysio @84SantosP @AdamMeakins @PaulBliton https://t.co/voyzCJ8s0f Does it Matter Which Exercise? A Randomized Control Trial of Exercise for Low Back Pain https://t.co/Fp1qig6muN
RT @chrisB0Y3R: @adamjh95 @marklaslett_NZ If you see centralization of symptoms in the spine you can bet it’s discogenic. Direction of exer…
RT @chrisB0Y3R: @adamjh95 @marklaslett_NZ If you see centralization of symptoms in the spine you can bet it’s discogenic. Direction of exer…
@adamjh95 @marklaslett_NZ If you identify discogenic pain unresponsive to mechanics you might consider this study/center’s work on identifying better candidates for TESI and then taking another look at them post injection https://t.co/ows6cy6eqx
@adamjh95 @marklaslett_NZ If you see centralization of symptoms in the spine you can bet it’s discogenic. Direction of exercise matters https://t.co/ows6cy6eqx
@DerekGriffin86 @MaryOKeeffe007 @Pain_NeuRa @AidanCashin That wasn't the specific question of this trial but I would say it kind of shows that it does make a difference. https://t.co/Ug0kFP2BW0 And this: https://t.co/ZqOVrzNEO7 Do you agree?
RT @t_sawatari: エビデンスに基づくケアよりも個人に基づくケアのほうが優れているということ。疾患に対してエビデンスでは「有効性がある」と文献が示しても目の前の患者が改善しないことはよくあること。症状を引き起こす原因がどこから起こっているのかを方向づけすることが重要…
エビデンスに基づくケアよりも個人に基づくケアのほうが優れているということ。疾患に対してエビデンスでは「有効性がある」と文献が示しても目の前の患者が改善しないことはよくあること。症状を引き起こす原因がどこから起こっているのかを方向づけすることが重要だと理解。https://t.co/vwJcG73ePE
@floteichert @MSmith_DPT @DerekGriffin86 Good questions Florian. I have had these Twitter discussions before. see https://t.co/F0OA6nUw3R and https://t.co/rIwyjtzDgA
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https://doi.org/10.1097/01. sion exercises and their associated postures in art.20063 brs.0000146464.23007.2a patients with acute low back pain. Spine ...
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