@marunet_ 少し調べました。まず、以下の研究でVT1(LT1)とVT2(LT2)の時の%VO2maxを調べたところ VT1=75%VO2max VT2=90%VO2maxくらいです。 https://t.co/3krlrXbO8z https://t.co/M4n2SxAvGM
Quantifying training intensity distribution in elite endurance athletes: is there evidence for an "optimal" distribution?
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The overall discussions reveal strong support for the established polarized training approach, with references to classic studies like Seiler & Kjerland and mentions of the 80/20 rule, highlighting the enduring influence of these concepts. The tone varies from technical and analytical to affirming, illustrating the topic's importance in elite endurance training practices.
Most discussions acknowledge the robustness of polarization in training, citing decades of coaching practices and supporting literature, indicating general consensus on its effectiveness.
Posts show high interest, with many referencing well-known studies, statistical data, and commonly used concepts like the 80/20 rule, which suggest active engagement with the topic.
Several posts delve into methodological details and implications, such as questioning the role of blood lactate measurements and VO2max percentages, reflecting thoughtful analysis.
While some recognize the significance for athletic training, the overall perceived impact appears moderate, emphasizing the reinforcement of existing training paradigms over revolutionary insights.
Abstract in brief
- The study examined how elite junior cross-country skiers distribute their training intensity and found that their training follows a polarized pattern, with most sessions performed either well below or above the lactate threshold, with minimal time spent at threshold levels.
- Different methods of measuring training intensity—heart rate, session RPE, and blood lactate—produced similar distributions, indicating consistent patterns across different assessment tools.
- The results suggest that elite endurance athletes tend to limit training at the lactate threshold (around 2-4 mM blood lactate), which is consistent with training patterns observed in other top-level endurance athletes across various sports.]
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Most liked on X and BlueskySeilerが80:20で名を馳せたらしい2004の論文 明確に80:20はセッション頻度の話をしている むしろ面白いのは、生の心拍データを分析して、各セッションの目的強度(session-goal)に変換する手法を使っていること (心拍の高強度滞在時間は3%だが、セッション目的では20%) https://t.co/RYrex8RFGa
Algo que no es nuevo, como entrenan los atletas de élite... entrenamiento polarizado... https://t.co/ECjVFrT7Rj
参考文献 https://t.co/OSXSWyXWu6 https://t.co/wzEJJCGe6H https://t.co/uZhBVV93Yc
@ryu_magu おはようございます! この論文だと時間割合になってますね!私が読んだものだとセッション数でした。 セッション数比率だと高強度が多くできますよね!しかし、低強度TRで土台を作ってこそ高強度TRの効果が活きてくるというのがここ数年取り組んできた感覚です。 https://t.co/HfvfHtmLbv
here and below relevant link to papers we mention in the talk: Quantifying training intensity distribution in elite endurance athletes: is there evidence for an ‘‘optimal’’ distribution? (find it via this https://t.co/iOnHN0xHaw - close to 1000 Google Scholar citations)
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• Seiler, S., & Kjerland, G. Ø. (2006). Quantifying training intensity distribution in elite endurance athletes: is there evidence for an “optimal” distribution? Scandinavian Journal of Medicine & Science in Sports, 16(1), 49–56. • Seiler, S. (2010). What is best practice for https://t.co/KbGMGeBHDB
@ChrisMasterjohn @B_Holmer @doctorinigo Wrong. Athletes have been coached to train polarized for multiple decades, and quite some literature has build up over the years that show this to be the optimal training distribution. See @StephenSeiler (https://t.co/dSVHojxZAP)
here and below relevant link to papers we mention in the talk: Quantifying training intensity distribution in elite endurance athletes: is there evidence for an ‘‘optimal’’ distribution? (find it via this https://t.co/iOnHN0xHaw - close to 1000 Google Scholar citations)
@SirHerb_the3rd The 80/20 rule https://t.co/Twj2oVWJEt
Algo que no es nuevo, como entrenan los atletas de élite... entrenamiento polarizado... https://t.co/ECjVFrT7Rj
@BenBikmanPhD this one is quantifying zone 2. that is important. https://t.co/Hx3aOUcBap
Seilerが80:20で名を馳せたらしい2004の論文 明確に80:20はセッション頻度の話をしている むしろ面白いのは、生の心拍データを分析して、各セッションの目的強度(session-goal)に変換する手法を使っていること (心拍の高強度滞在時間は3%だが、セッション目的では20%) https://t.co/RYrex8RFGa
参考文献 https://t.co/OSXSWyXWu6 https://t.co/wzEJJCGe6H https://t.co/uZhBVV93Yc
@ryu_magu おはようございます! この論文だと時間割合になってますね!私が読んだものだとセッション数でした。 セッション数比率だと高強度が多くできますよね!しかし、低強度TRで土台を作ってこそ高強度TRの効果が活きてくるというのがここ数年取り組んできた感覚です。 https://t.co/HfvfHtmLbv
Quantifying training intensity distribution in elite endurance athletes: is there evidence for an “optimal” distribution? https://t.co/hTqXonEJuE
RT @NaoyaTakei0421: @marunet_ 少し調べました。まず、以下の研究でVT1(LT1)とVT2(LT2)の時の%VO2maxを調べたところ VT1=75%VO2max VT2=90%VO2maxくらいです。 https://t.co/3krlrXbO8z…
@marunet_ 少し調べました。まず、以下の研究でVT1(LT1)とVT2(LT2)の時の%VO2maxを調べたところ VT1=75%VO2max VT2=90%VO2maxくらいです。 https://t.co/3krlrXbO8z https://t.co/M4n2SxAvGM
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