The discussions show a strong focus on scientific evidence, with references to the Cassidy study and other research, reflecting a critical yet informative tone that seeks to clarify misconceptions about stroke risks from chiropractic care. Contributions include detailed critiques of methodology and emphasis on the importance of distinguishing coincidence from causation, which demonstrates both high interest and engagement in understanding the topic's implications.
AgreementModerate agreement
Majority of discussions align with the study's conclusion that there is no significant increased risk of stroke from chiropractic care, citing the study and emphasizing the evidence.
InterestHigh interest
Participants are actively engaging with the topic, referencing specifics like the Cassidy study and mentioning the relevance of symptoms like headache and neck pain.
EngagementModerate engagement
Many users analyze the methodology and implications, debating causation vs correlation, and discussing the safety of neck manipulation based on research.
ImpactModerate impact
While the discussions reinforce existing evidence, the controversy and detailed analysis suggest a moderate influence on perceptions regarding chiropractic safety and stroke risk.
Abstract in brief
The study investigated whether visiting chiropractors or primary care physicians increases the risk of vertebrobasilar artery stroke, and found no increased risk from chiropractic visits, especially in people over 45.
Younger people (under 45) who experience stroke tend to have seen a chiropractor or doctor beforehand, likely because their symptoms like neck pain or headache are caused by the stroke (dissection).
Overall, vertebrobasilar strokes are very rare, and the apparent link between healthcare visits and strokes is probably because patients are seeking care for symptoms related to an impending stroke, not because the visits cause the stroke.]
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@neilorpen The safety of neck manipulation has been studied and there is no evidence that it increases the risk of stroke https://t.co/Y2wgFDdvt0 there is also no evidence it changes the hemodynamics or causes abnormal forces on the cervical arteries above normal everyday movements
@CaptJack36 @kkristtenn since you clearly didn't read or even look at any of the research in the GDrive, here ya go:
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https://t.co/77xecgFIfn https://t.co/m7adeW2xgi
@brandorobertsdc @HillcrestCardCo @jjones57692859 @ShriekingNoises And this Retrospective study showed patients were equally more likely to have seen a family doctor as a chiropractor in period before VBA stroke. VBA dissection’s early symptom is severe headache—one of most common reasons for chiropractic visit.
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@GasDocYates @Blitz_y https://t.co/qb6n3YvlDw The increased risks of stroke associated with chiro and PCP visits is likely due to patients with headache and neck pain from VBA dissection seeking care before their stroke. No evidence of excess risk of stroke associated chiro care compared to PCP
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Dr Greg Beenken discusses recent research indicating no increased risk of vertebrobasilar stroke from chiropractic visits. The study highlights that strokes are rare and often preceded by symptoms, not caused by…
@brandorobertsdc @HillcrestCardCo @jjones57692859 @ShriekingNoises And this Retrospective study showed patients were equally more likely to have seen a family doctor as a chiropractor in period before VBA stroke. VBA dissection’s early symptom is severe headache—one of most common reasons for chiropractic visit.
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@DoctorAnarchist @beauhightowerdn @CoffeeBlackMD Retrospective study showed patients were equally more likely to have seen a family doctor as a chiropractor in period before VBA stroke. VBA dissection’s early symptom is severe headache—one of most common reasons for chiropractic visit.
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@FlogMma @LibertarianMama @RealPhilycheese @ModelAyshaMirza Retrospective study showed patients were equally more likely to have seen a family doctor as a chiropractor in period before VBA stroke. VBA dissection’s early symptom is severe headache—one of most common reasons for chiropractic visit.
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@DBelardoMD Retrospective study showed patients were equally more likely to have seen a family doctor as a chiropractor in period before VBA stroke. VBA dissection’s early symptom is severe headache—one of most common reasons for chiropractic visit. https://t.co/qKZv7nzYWj
@tjeske56 @CaulfieldTim @SmithDanaG @EdzardErnst @ladyspinedoc https://t.co/qb6n3YvlDw The increased risks of stroke associated with chiro and PCP visits is likely due to patients with headache and neck pain from VBA dissection seeking care before their stroke. No evidence of excess risk of stroke associated chiro care compared to PCP
It is at this point that someone will say chiro isn't actually safe because of the risk of stroke from neck manipulations. But the data finds no evidence of excess risk from chiropractic care: https://t.co/TwvBfjk6pd
@GasDocYates @Blitz_y https://t.co/qb6n3YvlDw The increased risks of stroke associated with chiro and PCP visits is likely due to patients with headache and neck pain from VBA dissection seeking care before their stroke. No evidence of excess risk of stroke associated chiro care compared to PCP
@neilorpen The safety of neck manipulation has been studied and there is no evidence that it increases the risk of stroke https://t.co/Y2wgFDdvt0 there is also no evidence it changes the hemodynamics or causes abnormal forces on the cervical arteries above normal everyday movements
@AlanaKinrich The safety of neck manipulation has been studied and there is no evidence that it increases the risk of stroke https://t.co/6SozYDaiZU there is also no evidence it changes the hemodynamics or causes abnormal forces on the cervical arteries above normal everyday movements
@CaptJack36 @kkristtenn since you clearly didn't read or even look at any of the research in the GDrive, here ya go:
https://t.co/urLopDLlXA
https://t.co/5V64gWBSjG
https://t.co/77xecgFIfn https://t.co/m7adeW2xgi
@MurseWordsworth @Caulimovirus I don't have all my research links saved on this laptop, but can get them. Multiple studies have shown no increase in stroke or VBA dissection from chiropractic. https://t.co/9d7Xd3h6yL
@jtylerbates @RyManMD This kind of study has its limitations with regards to interpretation. However, I think the information presented is worth discussing.
Risk of Vertebrobasilar Stroke and Chiropractic Care: Results of a Pop... https://t.co/jipsP8Bi6P
Contrary opinion... They say "NO"!
Cassidy, J. David et al., "Risk of vertebrobasilar stroke and chiropractic care: results of a population-based case-control and case-crossover study." Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics 32, no. 2 (2009): S201-S208.
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@JWaltrousMD @DBelardoMD ...not causation. The overall argument needs to be what the best evidence demonstrates as far as increased risk or biomechanical plausibility. https://t.co/HF7jXLVakc - this concludes no greater risk of stroke vs visiting a PCP. 2/
@GlaubJessy I would recommend citing Cassidy's study. Addresses the issue at hand more directly with a more robust population-level design. I wish you luck, but I've had no success in discussing SMT/vad over twitter
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@powerm1985 Cassidy JD, Boyle E, Côté P, He Y, Hogg-Johnson S, Silver FL, et al. Risk of vertebrobasilar stroke and chiropractic care: results of a population-based case-control and case-crossover study. Spine. 2008 Feb 15;33(4 Suppl): S176–83.
Cassidy JD, Boyle E, Côté P, He Y, Hogg-Johnson S, Silver FL, et al. Risk of vertebrobasilar stroke and chiropractic care: results of a population-based case-control and case-crossover study. Spine. 2008 Feb 15;33(4 Suppl): S176–83.
@richardlanigan “..the mean force of all manual applications (is) 264 Newton’s and the mean force duration (is) 145 milliseconds”. So a chiropractic neck manipulation, for a short period of time, can provide 38% the force of a hanging. And a bad hanging at that" https://t.co/uoatiKLuEo #SinghBCA
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