"Isotopic evidence for the diets of European Neanderthals and early modern humans" https://t.co/i6XF2seb2e
Out of Africa: modern human origins special feature: isotopic evidence for the diets of European Neanderthals and early modern humans.
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The discussions showcase a consensus emphasizing the strength of isotopic evidence indicating humans' hypercarnivorous history, with examples like references to stable isotope studies and mentions that bone analyses reveal high levels of marine and terrestrial meat consumption. The tone is analytical and assertive, clearly reflecting an understanding and acceptance of the research findings' importance in shaping views on human evolutionary diets.
Most discussions agree strongly with the article's conclusion that early humans and Neanderthals were primarily carnivorous, citing isotopic evidence and references to multiple studies.
The posts show high interest as participants delve into detailed evidence, mention specific isotopic analyses, and debate dietary implications, reflecting active engagement.
Many posts reference scientific methods, studies, and comparisons, indicating deep engagement with the research findings and their broader implications.
The discussions challenge popular perceptions of human diet history, emphasizing the significance of isotopic evidence and influencing ongoing debates about human evolution and dietary evolution.
Abstract in brief
- Neanderthals in Europe primarily relied on large herbivores for their diet, acting as top-level carnivores over a long period ranging from about 120,000 to 37,000 years ago.
- Early modern humans in Europe showed more diverse diets, including aquatic resources like freshwater and marine foods, indicating broader dietary habits around 40,000 to 27,000 years ago.
- The discovery of Oase 1, the oldest directly dated modern human in Europe, suggests a possible dietary shift, with evidence pointing to freshwater fish consumption, which may reflect changes in population dynamics between Neanderthals and modern humans.]
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Most liked on X and BlueskyHumans are HYPERCARNIVORES @CharlesMBrenner, defined as ≥70% calories from animals https://t.co/Zw3edFXtXJ strongest single piece of evidence is from stable isotope analyses https://t.co/iMjOIr3IeF consilience amongst all lines of evidence (anatomy, genetics, archeology etc..) https://t.co/QL8hKzhi3X
@Race__Realist @AsarCadyn @carniyogi @beeaannZzZ @FoodFirst_Ty @GladstoneB81859 @nypost There's no way you can say humans were carnivorous. Firstly they show isotope levels higher than carnivores, for various reasons, and (as shown below) "low protein foods are invisible to this technique " https://t.co/6YcNMEgS0k https://t.co/nQWONGC46R
@ruimm this should work https://t.co/NdLgPTh41b
@DanSnowden @ZeroCarbSarah @VutopiaWellness @Zeteite @drjkahn @SBakerMD https://t.co/JJv3FFdGxv Isotope analysis indicates that humans have been hypercarnivores for over 100,000 years. You are the evolution equivalent of a flat earther.
@InTheMeatrix @TheCarnivoreLaw This is the research his table is adapted from. It even concedes that analysis on & comparisons to other populations in other areas (Russia & China) hasn't been done yet... https://t.co/sZ3h8KixzI
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RT @raphaels7: Humans are HYPERCARNIVORES @CharlesMBrenner, defined as ≥70% calories from animals https://t.co/Zw3edFXtXJ strongest single…
Humans are HYPERCARNIVORES @CharlesMBrenner, defined as ≥70% calories from animals https://t.co/Zw3edFXtXJ strongest single piece of evidence is from stable isotope analyses https://t.co/iMjOIr3IeF consilience amongst all lines of evidence (anatomy, genetics, archeology etc..) https://t.co/QL8hKzhi3X
@AurelianoStingi https://t.co/OdbXKEWqnC
@richcollins @DrEenfeldt Remembering the exact title of the article can be key, so my apologies if it’s not exact. Here’s one you can read through with a load of references to many other anthropological studies. Enjoy https://t.co/XDWHmFNbi5
@ruimm this should work https://t.co/NdLgPTh41b
"Isotopic evidence for the diets of European Neanderthals and early modern humans" https://t.co/i6XF2seb2e
@GoofyShmoobert @Daniel114864381 @LKIESL @pradaliko @ReddCinema Isotopes have nothing to do with nutrition? Lol you don't even know what it is. Humans have recorded a high δ15N %, we consumed high freshwater and marine meat as well as terrestrial game https://t.co/6g9vq0Iw2M
@NeffeliesStuff In short, Humans are carnivores. https://t.co/D52jzvAZfI. (1)
@_SupportAnimals @New_York_steak Oase1 humans are 40k-27k years old, and more carnivorous than the "top level carnivores" the neanderthals and wolves. https://t.co/J6eGMEPg7K https://t.co/xXdSC35zZG
@VeganRoo @Only_ASG Stable isotope testing, https://t.co/QCQoqKTXEr https://t.co/NRLFBpUPO3 https://t.co/LsN6wUQncs https://t.co/Ka1QGAjPyf
@ridgeisland @bulkbiker @AjRockatansky You could satisfy your curiosity by joining the zeroing on health FB group, there are provable 20 - 25 year carnivores on there. Or here is a sensitive test of humans bones to see what they were eating: https://t.co/OhlNXuQiAr. https://t.co/mfaFlhQUCq
@Jorsch2R @shashikiranu @SBakerMD @KenDBerryMD I’m not saying vegetables are bad and I don’t think everyone should eat carnivore. But as for early humans, there is a lot of evidence they were apex carnivores. There are tons of studies like this one. https://t.co/gP5FirA4bR
@Maroxad So then say the same for the “we mainly ate plants” crowd clown. https://t.co/yhF1zfJenS
@HarryPickl9508 @carnivoremax That's a fine theory, Harry! The evidence suggests otherwise ~ that we're almost obligate carnivores, but one that can adapt to *short* periods of meat-scarcity (as long as they are short, & we're healthy to begin with). This might interest you... https://t.co/UwlP3HctyB
@JohnColeman675 @SamaHoole Of course not -- but we can & do read. https://t.co/UwlP3HctyB
@JohnColeman675 @PETAUK @unlimited_ls Really. https://t.co/zYq9P5XC5n https://t.co/GQNRIDgTD5
@armentsatou @SamaHoole Not true. https://t.co/UwlP3HctyB
@danbjor_daniel @TheMaxJenkinson @OtherJohnSmith @PlantChompers https://t.co/UwlP3HctyB
@Kargsbad "There are high-protein plant foods in Europe that... early modern humans could have consumed, such as hazelnuts [commonly consumed in the Mesolithic] that wouldhave been visible in the isotopic analyses, but they are simply not seen" https://t.co/J6eGMEPNXi
@christopher_erc @B_Holmer @SamaHoole This study even says they looked for evidence of available high protein plant foods, like hazelnuts, in human bone collagen, but they were not seen in the isotopic analysis. https://t.co/j5NV6ZgTDl
@FitnessCharles @KenDBerryMD Link to reference: https://t.co/L88pvCcL19
@Race__Realist @AsarCadyn @carniyogi @beeaannZzZ @FoodFirst_Ty @GladstoneB81859 @nypost There's no way you can say humans were carnivorous. Firstly they show isotope levels higher than carnivores, for various reasons, and (as shown below) "low protein foods are invisible to this technique " https://t.co/6YcNMEgS0k https://t.co/nQWONGC46R
@JimmySm58405905 @KenDBerryMD On what basis do you claim that it’s ‘NOT’? https://t.co/pXDGdol6vs
https://t.co/Uw9h1tPqGR Houston we have a problem..
@JohnColeman675 @herbivore_club https://t.co/NjlgeBDG5y https://t.co/vR6VcMeIo1 https://t.co/UqyAOlS27L https://t.co/jwksD3SvjY
@Squidrider @anthony_chaffee https://t.co/TPfEzsPhpB
@suavektw @ElyysRevenge @SonCreation1 @Welovelamar Richards, M. P., &; Trinkaus, E. (2009). Isotopic evidence for the diets of European Neanderthals and early modern humans. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 106(38), 16034–16039. https://t.co/Jn4dYdhCvK ^ Early hominid species (before Homo sapiens) also ate meat
@hummus_rules @BeateEichenwald "The isotopic evidence indicates that in all cases Neanderthals were top-level carnivores" https://t.co/gcFRqlVSJu
@aCarnivoreDiet @BioLayne Pnas would like a word with you. https://t.co/wjVLKdAeNk
@InTheMeatrix @TheCarnivoreLaw This is the research his table is adapted from. It even concedes that analysis on & comparisons to other populations in other areas (Russia & China) hasn't been done yet... https://t.co/sZ3h8KixzI
@dhogaza2 @StevenJonMiller https://t.co/jGC0BjJB6d
@sciencebyjae Yes. There is. Ample. https://t.co/j8RCotAyku
@DataProGuy @SteAssent @KenDBerryMD @timspector Cute. https://t.co/aAT95YHecU https://t.co/jRwYTTrqiQ https://t.co/6OEpDcNMxt https://t.co/XoShzHm3SN https://t.co/keoI4L7AEH https://t.co/6m1tEOi8Nw https://t.co/KsPMuBWHnn https://t.co/a8lII1yfSD
Isotopic evidence for the diets of European Neanderthals and early modern humans | Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences https://t.co/WtXTkmA5Za
@mitchseaman @JoeyASchwartz Finding out what we ate is exactly what bone isotope studies do, "The isotopic evidence indicates that in all cases Neanderthals were top-level carnivores and obtained all, or most, of their dietary protein from large herbivores" https://t.co/gcFRqlVSJu
@beansndreams @RainboPlatypus @bclj199 @hayastanforeve1 @rgbrazier @ceddygrock @DMTDave24 @SBakerMD A. Not my claim but B. Early modern human bone isotopes we're consistently more carnivorous than even wolves. I can show you dozens more studies saying the same of entire sites. https://t.co/gcFRqmcVLu
@Muhamma73112026 @CarnivoreSapien One of many studies saying we were carnivores. https://t.co/gcFRqmcVLu
@ukwondering @GoateeWoodson @americagloriou1 @ThVeganTomBrown @selltheworld @89technical @joe31183 @vegansince96 @TheParadigmShif @noonesp95429433 @KetoSustainable @JustinTemplerSr @ElwoodDogMeat @ak059 @tj0101010 @ManagerDairy @RuthArnone @Boogaloo2022 "There are high-protein plant foods in Europe that Neanderthals and early modern humans could have consumed, such as hazelnuts [commonly consumed in the Mesolithic (49)] that would have been visible in the isotopic analyses, but they are simply not seen." https://t.co/kBuR31wWR2
@loneshuriken @sauteslut @Emlougar @CapitalistV3GAN @forktown385 @espiteau Humans ate so much meat that bone isotope studies often find no trace of plant proteins. https://t.co/kBuR31wWR2
@DanSnowden @ZeroCarbSarah @VutopiaWellness @Zeteite @drjkahn @SBakerMD https://t.co/JJv3FFdGxv Isotope analysis indicates that humans have been hypercarnivores for over 100,000 years. You are the evolution equivalent of a flat earther.
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