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An Official ATS/AACN/ACCP/ESICM/SCCM Policy Statement: Responding to Requests for Potentially Inappropriate Treatments in Intensive Care Units.
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The discussions reflect a thoughtful engagement with the policy, with examples like debates over 'futility' versus 'potentially inappropriate' care, and comments on trust and justice, which reveal how word choice and tone convey both support and critical reflection, emphasizing the policy's relevance in clinical decision-making and ethical discussions.
Most comments acknowledge the importance of the policy and agree with its premise, as seen in statements like 'Excellent example' and references to previous policy statements emphasizing 'potentially inappropriate treatments.'
The discussions demonstrate high curiosity, with many engaging in detailed reflections on terminology like 'futility' and 'potentially inappropriate,' indicating strong interest in the nuances of treatment decisions.
Several posts show active participation, especially when debating definitions or implications, such as differentiating 'strictly futile' from 'potentially inappropriate,' highlighting a moderate level of deep engagement.
While some posts recognize the policy's significance, the overall emphasis appears on understanding and applying its principles rather than immediate widespread clinical or policy change, suggesting a moderate impact.
Abstract in brief
- The statement discusses how hospitals and healthcare providers should handle situations where patients or their surrogates request treatments that clinicians believe are not appropriate, emphasizing the importance of communication and conflict resolution.
- It recommends that healthcare institutions proactively prevent conflicts through clear communication and involve expert consultants early, instead of using the term "futile" and instead referring to these treatments as "potentially inappropriate."
- When disagreements about treatment cannot be resolved through communication and negotiation, a fair conflict resolution process should be followed, which may include hospital review, seeking treatment elsewhere, or external review, especially when time constraints prevent full resolution.]
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@IM_Crit_ The situation you described is nowhere close to futile. https://t.co/qbfzpkbDuj I presume that’s why you used quotes, but commenters on the original thread are throwing that idea around far too loosely.
@hraza222 @snakagawa_md @IM_Crit_ @ross_prager @PulmCrit @derwuk @pulmtoilet https://t.co/2UHsYDRsiE. I would try to have some humility with deciding what "no hope of a good quality of life" means. I am not sure we generally know what that means to ourselves, and much less what it would mean for another.
@AamirNHussain @adamcifu @FutureDocs @jeannemfarnan The critical care community has come up with “potentially inappropriate treatments”, a helpful concept when approaching family meetings in the ICU. Not sure exactly how one would applying in an EOL conversation in the office. https://t.co/qJFPyqTfff
@ShaunWinfield @ScholerinED An Official ATS/AACN/ACCP/ESICM/SCCM Policy Statement: Responding to Requests for Potentially Inappropriate Treatments in Intensive Care Units https://t.co/doVmEHMYy9
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@IM_Crit_ The situation you described is nowhere close to futile. https://t.co/qbfzpkbDuj I presume that’s why you used quotes, but commenters on the original thread are throwing that idea around far too loosely.
@hraza222 @snakagawa_md @IM_Crit_ @ross_prager @PulmCrit @derwuk @pulmtoilet https://t.co/2UHsYDRsiE. I would try to have some humility with deciding what "no hope of a good quality of life" means. I am not sure we generally know what that means to ourselves, and much less what it would mean for another.
@ShaunWinfield @ScholerinED An Official ATS/AACN/ACCP/ESICM/SCCM Policy Statement: Responding to Requests for Potentially Inappropriate Treatments in Intensive Care Units https://t.co/doVmEHMYy9
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RT @frubulotta: An Official ATS/AACN/ACCP/ESICM/SCCM Policy Statement: Responding to Requests for Potentially Inappropriate Treatments in I…
An Official ATS/AACN/ACCP/ESICM/SCCM Policy Statement: Responding to Requests for Potentially Inappropriate Treatments in Intensive Care Units | American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine https://t.co/QFWrHBUjl1
@msiuba @Doclief @Utah_gimme_2 @virenkaul @accpchest @emily_fri @PulmCrit @laxswamy @psirides @OtisBRickman @Donicme @kari_jerge @medevidenceblog The state jurisdiction you are in can dictate many things, it’s true. However, the state cannot dictate futility, which is a medical judgment. Futility can have a very narrow definition, but at minimum, it means “unable to meet physiologic goals.” https://t.co/YwJBXwfooi
An Official ATS/AACN/ACCP/ESICM/SCCM Policy Statement: Responding to Requests for Potentially Inappropriate Treatments in Intensive Care Units | American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine https://t.co/rWmeCDiedU
Excellent example of the distinction between “strictly futile” and “potentially inappropriate care” https://t.co/qJFPyqTfff dialysis is not strictly futile in this case, it would achieve a very short term physiologic goal. However it’s potentially inappropriate https://t.co/4UpwStWbsd
@sv1121 @ndyG83 @anandiyermd @laxswamy @eemoin @pallipulm Great point. Huge issues w trust, equity/justice if it appears policies aren’t applied similarly to all A few yrs ago, crit care societies put out policy statement along these lines. Focuses on “potentially inappropriate tx” but certainly applies to CPR: https://t.co/g1OVxXLcmH https://t.co/zuLOUUMVSC
@AamirNHussain @adamcifu @FutureDocs @jeannemfarnan The critical care community has come up with “potentially inappropriate treatments”, a helpful concept when approaching family meetings in the ICU. Not sure exactly how one would applying in an EOL conversation in the office. https://t.co/qJFPyqTfff
@DrNancyGlass1 @BettinaRyll @AmyGDalaMD I agree but assessing what is “futile” is not straightforward. It depends on clinical situation & patient/family goals, hence the term falling out of favor. We need procedures to navigate requests for such care. Important paper for all interested in this: https://t.co/XqGDQP4hqF
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