Am J Clin Nutr September 2015 PMID 26178720

Diets with high-fat cheese, high-fat meat, or carbohydrate on cardiovascular risk markers in overweight postmenopausal women: a randomized crossover trial.

Tanja K Thorning, Farinaz Raziani, Nathalie T Bendsen, Arne Astrup, Tine Tholstrup, Anne Raben

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The discussions reflect a generally supportive attitude towards the study, with posters referring to findings like 'higher HDL with cheese and meat' and using phrases such as 'appears to be less atherogenic,' indicating curiosity and cautious optimism. The tone varies from supportive to skeptical, depending on the language and context, with some debates about the study's design and health implications.

AgreementModerate agreement

Most discussions highlight support for the study's findings, especially emphasizing the positive effects of high-fat cheese and meat on HDL cholesterol levels.

InterestHigh interest

Many discussions express high interest, with posters discussing implications for dietary choices and questioning traditional low-fat dogmas.

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Some users delve into the study's methodology and potential health implications, showing moderate, thoughtful engagement.

ImpactModerate impact

The discussion suggests the findings could influence perceptions of dietary fat and cardiovascular health, although some skepticism remains.

Abstract in brief

  • The study investigated how high-fat diets from cheese, meat, or carbohydrates affect blood cholesterol levels and fats in overweight postmenopausal women, finding that cheese and meat increased beneficial HDL cholesterol more than carbohydrates.
  • The cheese diet specifically elevated HDL, apo AI, and lowered the apo B/apo AI ratio compared to the carbohydrate diet, indicating potential cardiovascular benefits.
  • Fecal fat excretion was higher with the cheese diet, suggesting different impacts on fat digestion, while overall lipid profiles remained similar across diets except for specific beneficial changes with cheese and meat.]

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P.D. Mangan Health & Freedom Maximalist
@Mangan150 · X

High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet." via @DiscoStew66 https://t.co/FqjJkjAmii

May 12, 2020 · 68 likes · 17 shares · 295,566 followers View post →
DiscoStew
@DiscoStew66 · X

“Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.” https://t.co/68mXEEi3Kk

Dec 31, 2020 · 30 likes · 6 shares · 10,791 followers View post →
DiscoStew
@DiscoStew66 · X

“Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.” https://t.co/XQJ60DDGT8

Jun 8, 2020 · 23 likes · 5 shares · 10,791 followers View post →
DiscoStew
@DiscoStew66 · X

CONCLUSIONS Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.... https://t.co/mY03K9AbUf

May 12, 2020 · 16 likes · 2 shares · 10,791 followers View post →
Eduardo Rico
@EduardoRicoER · X

Diets With High-Fat Cheese, High-Fat Meat, or Carbohydrate on Cardiovascular - A randomized crossover trial https://t.co/jnOYYEimhj

May 12, 2020 · 2 likes · 103 followers View post →
João Menezes & Associados/ GTEPS / Pecuária Já
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Só notícias boas! https://t.co/KNl9FtUgDg

Feb 25, 2024 · 1 like · 11,806 followers View post →

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João Menezes & Associados/ GTEPS / Pecuária Já
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Só notícias boas! https://t.co/KNl9FtUgDg

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JD
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@PlantBasedNews @elonmusk https://t.co/v5gWzgWshA

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Jeppe Nielsen
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@SlothKristian @spisekammeret https://t.co/oqzbwEmTGk Studiet fra KU, der kritiseres for bevidst at designe et studie til at mislede: https://t.co/3gtm5p7Vd7

Nov 18, 2021 · 1 like · 49 followers View post →
Alex Rodríguez
@alexsarg10 · X

@rosario_a_r @MariaLimoncina María no apelaba a la nutrición. Le das la razón en los dos puntos y aún así quieres debate? El riesgo cáncer de próstata a mayor consumo de lácteos te vale? El peligro de las grasas en los lácteos? https://t.co/Usa2cPhKwW https://t.co/6K5AopqIXB https://t.co/PvqetETxF2

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Sure Tips Lord
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Some controlled studies have found that frequent meat consumption, including high-fat varieties, has a neutral or positive effect on heart disease risk factors (Source (https://t.co/Cqw1Pgdbsi), Source (https://t.co/4O6R6sJBsJ)).

May 21, 2021 · 169 followers View post →
Allan Farber
@allanfarber · X

RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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Freya Who?
@FreyaWho · X

RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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DanPincus
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RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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Shashi Iyengar | Metabolic Health India®
@shashiiyengar · X

RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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David Diamond
@LDLSkeptic · X

RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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DiscoStew
@DiscoStew66 · X

“Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.” https://t.co/68mXEEi3Kk

Dec 31, 2020 · 30 likes · 6 shares · 10,791 followers View post →
Bill Pratt
@BillLost140 · X

RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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Sonja Meier MD
@sonjameier2 · X

RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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Steven M. Weil
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RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

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Mad
@MadPharmacist1 · X

RT @DiscoStew66: “Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to…

Jun 8, 2020 · 5 shares · 6,498 followers View post →
DiscoStew
@DiscoStew66 · X

“Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.” https://t.co/XQJ60DDGT8

Jun 8, 2020 · 23 likes · 5 shares · 10,791 followers View post →
The Natural Health Blogger
@naturalhealthbl · X

@ScepticalDoctor @The_Nutrivore @AllenCrider @professionaldog @enjoylife3D @NickEggleton @FoodFirst_Ty Again it is high-cheese, high-fat diets that derive unhealthy quantities of energy from SFA and usually at the expense of other dietary balance. "Diets with high-fat cheese, high-fat meat, or carbohydrate oncardiovascular risk markers in overweight postmenopausal women:a RCT."

Jun 6, 2020 · 2,287 followers View post →
Ole Marius Tidemann
@oltidema · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 13, 2020 · 17 shares · 28 followers View post →
Muzzpol
@Muzzpol · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

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laili
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RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 68 followers View post →
tinnakorn somsamai
@lek12061 · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 4 followers View post →
skwisch
@skwisch · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 1,220 followers View post →
Lesley Astbury
@astbury_lesley · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 101 followers View post →
UNFUCKED FIREFIGHTER
@unfuckedfire · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 7,439 followers View post →
Eduardo Rico
@EduardoRicoER · X

Diets With High-Fat Cheese, High-Fat Meat, or Carbohydrate on Cardiovascular - A randomized crossover trial https://t.co/jnOYYEimhj

May 12, 2020 · 2 likes · 103 followers View post →
Nuclear is Efficient Carbon-free energy source
@slargeliving · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 1,050 followers View post →
Carol Anne
@jazzycarolanne · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 1,639 followers View post →
BMS Matrix
@BmsMatrix · X

RT @DiscoStew66: CONCLUSIONS Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore,…

May 12, 2020 · 2 shares · 1,213 followers View post →
Mortuus Bestia
@MortuusBestia · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 780 followers View post →
edenjac
@edenjac · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 214 followers View post →
Jeff
@jlipa · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 9,568 followers View post →
Eduardo Rico
@EduardoRicoER · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 103 followers View post →
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@gran1_ly · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 211 followers View post →
BMS Matrix
@BmsMatrix · X

RT @Mangan150: High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear t…

May 12, 2020 · 17 shares · 1,213 followers View post →
Michael Fallon
@Dagdamor · X

Diets With High-Fat Cheese, High-Fat Meat, or Carbohydrate on Cardiovascular Risk Markers in Overweight Postmenopau… https://t.co/M2zZbBmw4i

May 12, 2020 · 182 followers View post →
P.D. Mangan Health & Freedom Maximalist
@Mangan150 · X

High cheese and high meat diets raised HDL and Apo A-1, compared to high carb diet. "Diets with cheese and meat... appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet." via @DiscoStew66 https://t.co/FqjJkjAmii

May 12, 2020 · 68 likes · 17 shares · 295,566 followers View post →
Mallory Gayle Holm
@MGH_KetoPA · X

RT @DiscoStew66: CONCLUSIONS Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore,…

May 12, 2020 · 2 shares · 2,493 followers View post →
DiscoStew
@DiscoStew66 · X

CONCLUSIONS Diets with cheese and meat as primary sources of SFAs cause higher HDL cholesterol and apo A-I and, therefore, appear to be less atherogenic than is a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.... https://t.co/mY03K9AbUf

May 12, 2020 · 16 likes · 2 shares · 10,791 followers View post →
Lawmom
@Lawmom · X

Huh. This study seems to say that older, overweight women are better off eating meat and cheese for their health than carbs. "Diets with high-fat cheese, high-fat meat, or carbohydrate on cardiovascular risk markers in overweight postmenopausal women" https://t.co/X4zE3ZSPb9

Mar 20, 2019 · 1,063 followers View post →