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From this paper: https://t.co/RtkJEUdJZl "In this section, we consider how a collective of Markov blankets can assemble or self-organize into an ensemble that itself has a Markov blanket. " Who says science can't be warm and fuzzy?
The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
Currently reading this https://t.co/EztY9H6izW as an introduction to the FEP/active inference literature. I’m curious to compare the Markov blanket perspective on demarcating system boundaries with the mereological perspective offered by Turvey in his “Lectures on Perception”.
@mjdramstead @KathrynNave We also consider operational closure under the FEP in this relatively recent paper: https://t.co/wWrdPuEzvP and we touch on it here as well: https://t.co/dUqyiSSnhi
It's Markov Blankets all the way down https://t.co/SJwh7Emy6w https://t.co/dd5D8E8qHG
@bayesianboy @exilefaker The notion of Markov blanket in the paper she is referencing (https://t.co/jg3kVZxcSl) is not unambiguously defined. It references the Life as we know it "Markov blanket" as an example, but the "Markov blanket" there isn't a Markov blanket in the sense of Pearl.
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@wildiris19 @klwong43 Nested hierararchal markov blankets! https://t.co/ShbLDqRGZt
The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/ijwShuKtao
@NTFabiano https://t.co/ayWwqYbcoG “The Markov Blankets of Life”
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
RT @leafs_s_jp: The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/LDPveaj00T
@hiallen72 I highly recommend this paper on “The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle” https://t.co/DMlOSz12f8
https://t.co/hzxGc12JXD A fourth layer ("we model ourselves modeling ourselves modeling the world") is already happening, but we see "ourselves" as "them" and "those other [stupid/bad/ignorant/evil] guys." We can either turn that around, or have a blanket extinction event. https://t.co/Bnt4R68Q85
@Dragonmaurizio Have you ever been heard of Markov blankets? https://t.co/DMlOSz1A4G The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle
@bronzeagepapi reminds me of another paper i read recently https://t.co/UBv2sveqoB
https://t.co/19igRckH17
@HamishDoodles yeah, or more specifically, Markov Blankets. You can't necessarily predict the outcome, but you can get a good guess on the boundary. https://t.co/Y5GkxwZEJj
@criticofpolecon This is describing a Markov blanket: https://t.co/b3lgp0VMXN.
@miiura does this mean BabyAGI now has a... Markov blanket?!
https://t.co/t3JZ32rM0o "Only when the properties of the collective dynamics feed back into the scale below, forming a free energy-minimizing system at the scale of the whole system, it is possible to talk meaningfully of ensemble Markov blankets."
@kohn_gregory A related idea
@DavidDeutschOxf "In short, given enough time, agents will come to be the authors of the external states (i.e. environments) that reciprocate with predictable, uncertainty resolving sensory feedback..." https://t.co/dcgKv0CVSf Masters of good ideas?
Dear @openaicommunity is anyone considering AI in the case of Markov blankets? IMO this will be a deciding factor in how things progress. https://t.co/hlHUiwCI4q
It has proved very helpful to think of exchanges between internal and external states (across the Markov blanket) in terms of a variational free energy-minimizing scheme called predictive coding. https://t.co/GHn0H6xq2o
In these formulations, free energy can be associated with prediction errors; namely, the difference between sensory states and their prediction is based upon internal states. https://t.co/GHn0H6xq2o
In predictive coding, predictions are made from the ‘top down’, while prediction error or local surprise is propagated up the hierarchy until any residual error signal is eliminated through updating or parametrizing Bayesian beliefs. https://t.co/GHn0H6Ot4o
This, in turn, enables a system's inferences to acquire a ‘grip’ on the hidden causes of sensory input [16,17]. https://t.co/GHn0H6xq2o
Info comprehension & integration are related to autonomous consciousness of aroma - low melting point soluble steam collapse. Intensity of consciousness (each line has left-center-right area) https://t.co/GHn0H6Ot4o
Top: neural connection area, autonomous consciousness area, spiritual structure area. Middle: old inertia area, mind control area, thinking expansion area. Bottom: neural exchange area, divinity connection area, module swap area. https://t.co/GHn0H6xq2o
The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle https://t.co/GHn0H6Ot4o
3.1. The Markov blanket—mere active inference What warrants this claim is that it is possible to cast generalized synchrony between two coupled pendulums in terms of mutual information. https://t.co/GHn0H6xq2o
In information theory, mutual information is the KL divergence between the marginal densities over two sets of variables and the joint distribution. https://t.co/GHn0H6xq2o
When the two sets of variables are independent, the joint distribution becomes the product of the marginals and the KL divergence or mutual information falls to zero. https://t.co/GHn0H6Ot4o
@MdKirchhoff's paper on organization via Markov blankets is genius level: https://t.co/6nBqlCGjnc
@mikolasan @mohjb Yet another approach I've seen is using Markov blankets. Heres a paper, where they use the term "active inference" and it seems to me similar to what intuition may be like (but in terms of behaviour instead of appealing to some internal mental state)
https://t.co/Ozx31YmNxC(e.g.,states%20that%20separate%20the%20two.
RT @Cryptomethod: @KingBigBen0001 @crudeborne https://t.co/K7HBGakS6I
@KingBigBen0001 @crudeborne https://t.co/K7HBGakS6I
https://t.co/FjUCO8kv3N
@yashkaf definitely a wise move. I only began to understand any of his ramblings after he got someone else to actually write the paper: https://t.co/TdZLccg2Wa (recommended)
RT @ArcheoHelmholtz: @AndydeFonseca the right ‘beam’. One might ask why Homo sapiens have failed to reach this existential Nirvana. This is…
@AndydeFonseca the right ‘beam’. One might ask why Homo sapiens have failed to reach this existential Nirvana. This is probably due to the fact that the world we populate contains other systems (like ourselves) that confound predictions". https://t.co/mu94BCxtXU Caso pensemos isso através 3/4
What #ufo experiencers refer to as "the veil" others call a "Markov Blanket". #ufotwitter https://t.co/mRPT0xZJ8a
@ArcheoHelmholtz @huffermana @JustinCaouette Life is made of collective of Markov blankets that in turn make larger Markov blankets forming hierarchy - hierarchical bayesian updating network. I suggest reading this. https://t.co/uEpp0gBXOS
See more here https://t.co/yPIu3RdiG9
>マルコフ・ブランケットとは、あるシステム（例えば、細胞や多細胞生物）の境界を統計的に定義するものである https://t.co/TcUtQONXqV
It's Markov Blankets all the way down https://t.co/SJwh7Emy6w https://t.co/dd5D8E8qHG
11/ Is there a tension between FEP's ambitions to provide a universal systems theory and desires to answer Schrodinger's question, with only the latter involving autopoiesis, and with the former being "mere active inference" (via generalized synchrony)? https://t.co/Nx5RMpfPQ5
@mmabeuf It's insane to me how similar your thinking is to the FEP formulation of thinking about self-organizing systems https://t.co/1l0PkrKODS https://t.co/RK2rabMczb
Read an interesting paper on how some folks are framing "boundary preservation" in self-organizing systems statistically. Deep stuff. Probably interesting for those w/ a basic background of Bayesian stats https://t.co/N7qWtltlM0
@nils_gilman Incorrect. https://t.co/O801bhkuvN
https://t.co/JVW8CjpgQR
@MaxSeijo @orangeasm i.e. see here https://t.co/1l0PkrKODS https://t.co/0Ua2kmuTCS
@no_identd You mean like this? https://t.co/zNhkzZ0UUP
@mjdramstead @KathrynNave We also consider operational closure under the FEP in this relatively recent paper: https://t.co/wWrdPuEzvP and we touch on it here as well: https://t.co/dUqyiSSnhi
@bayesianboy @exilefaker The notion of Markov blanket in the paper she is referencing (https://t.co/jg3kVZxcSl) is not unambiguously defined. It references the Life as we know it "Markov blanket" as an example, but the "Markov blanket" there isn't a Markov blanket in the sense of Pearl.
@joe_dewhurst https://t.co/XMDDPYN5Ke
@andresintheory This paper provides a formalized mathematical framework for describing "being as analogy," which has deep roots going back decades in cognitive science, neuroscience, and machine learning https://t.co/SznWBvAc7w
@hendekahedron > the interaction of agent and environment To unpack this, there is a lot to be said about what an agent is in physical terms. Here is one such attempt: https://t.co/bU2QggtuQO, and this is related to another promising avenue in terms of Markov blankets: https://t.co/Pb1mIfNgcZ
The FEP relies on a concept called a Markov blanket, which is a boundary between the internal states of a self-organizing system and the states of the external environment https://t.co/1l0PkrKODS https://t.co/q4sEIGncSN
“Nested Markov blankets of Markov blankets at different levels of organization” (a figure from this paper). Q: Can two or more blankets intersect, like Venn diagrams? Examples? https://t.co/dMhESCCldf
@rudzinskimaciej @mjdramstead @NeuroYogacara https://t.co/dUqyiSSnhi
@IntuitMachine @SurviveThrive2 @StephenSillett @ineshipolito @manuelbaltieri 3. Autopoiesis: “Multiscale integration: beyond internalism and externalism” https://t.co/ILYug1tBto “Where There is Life There is Mind” https://t.co/rVVQFBQueQ "The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle" https://t.co/itHc4E7Fts
@metadiogenes Two great papers on this (not by me) are: "On Markov blankets and hierarchical self-organisation" https://t.co/OQqOhY6EPr "The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle" https://t.co/itHc4E7Fts 2/2
@metadiogenes @NeuroPolarbear @mjdramstead @chazfirestone Although I sympathise with the general critique, I don't think it's fair to attribute it to "Friston's Predictive Processing". Maybe it's me, but it's always been an embedded, environmental view, for me, since the 2009 paper. but fwiw to emphasize: https://t.co/3SbYaW3pFX
@markburgess_osl Mark, do you perhaps have some thoughts on Markov blankets as a basis of agency (in Karl Friston's perspective) or its possible relations to Promise Theory? https://t.co/aoLrlB1fXm
The #Markovblankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/Zp5J0tYb4N
@ID_AA_Carmack other subjects to look up would be karl friston, the free energy principle and markov blankets. https://t.co/PKSalwelJA https://t.co/iVF6SNjfDC https://t.co/vNiPAsYB4D
The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/FNGMZimy8r
RT @NoahGuzman14: Currently reading this https://t.co/EztY9H6izW as an introduction to the FEP/active inference literature. I’m curious…
Currently reading this https://t.co/EztY9H6izW as an introduction to the FEP/active inference literature. I’m curious to compare the Markov blanket perspective on demarcating system boundaries with the mereological perspective offered by Turvey in his “Lectures on Perception”.
@Muumoot Two examples of intimately related (and formalized) notions are [1] an order parameter in complexity theory, and [2] measures of integrated information (functional differentiation and integration), e.g. the one central in IIT, but there are other ones too https://t.co/3SbYaW3pFX https://t.co/Mbkxrwhxyz
@neuropoetic @NoahGuzman14 Sorry late to the party! I'd recommend: https://t.co/X1ckF8JzA8 (exhaustive & hard), https://t.co/o1QoOsY3XC and for more accessible (and/or philosophical) descriptions: https://t.co/pbitgFTgfN, this collection: https://t.co/saLgHV9YSM, or the books by @fluffycyborg and @hohwy
@symbecon Kirchhoff M, Parr T, Palacios E, Friston K, Kiverstein J. 2018 "The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle." _J. R. Soc. Interface_ 15: 20170792. https://t.co/Vw1L0y9Qde
@freerecall @EPoe187 @erikphoel edit: The development of my personal views was initiated by reading Erik Hoel's work, but there's lots of other cool stuff that impacted me afterwards. Strongly recommend these two works to bridge bio -> cogneuro https://t.co/4GuUc79FJz https://t.co/eCPnZJS4pk
In this paper we have argued that the autonomous organization of living systems consists of the hierarchical assembly of... https://t.co/iJU6HAElcM
RT @MelMitchell1: From this paper: https://t.co/RtkJEUdJZl "In this section, we consider how a collective of Markov blankets can assemble…
RT @MelMitchell1: From this paper: https://t.co/RtkJEUdJZl "In this section, we consider how a collective of Markov blankets can assemble…
RT @MelMitchell1: From this paper: https://t.co/RtkJEUdJZl "In this section, we consider how a collective of Markov blankets can assemble…
RT @MelMitchell1: From this paper: https://t.co/RtkJEUdJZl "In this section, we consider how a collective of Markov blankets can assemble…
From this paper: https://t.co/RtkJEUdJZl "In this section, we consider how a collective of Markov blankets can assemble or self-organize into an ensemble that itself has a Markov blanket. " Who says science can't be warm and fuzzy?
@_julesh_ That's fair, but I am getting the sense that the means of your fruit-picking are highly transferrable. There's a lot of literature, both in volume and in diversity (and embedded diversity therein), but I'd argue that this kind of work might be a bridge: https://t.co/3SbYaW3pFX
@jkbren @NUnetsi Fwiw: The brain is arguably the best "case study" to think about complexity, so for an exercise, I think maybe discussing it might be of particular interest. My personal suggestion would be this paper, on complex organisation in autopoietic organisms. https://t.co/3SbYaW3pFX
https://t.co/SMymRtS7Zl @Valar_Festivus On my reading list
The #Markovblankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/ZBLinqUNuY
RT @a_tschantz: @distributedcog This is essentially the idea behind active inference in nested Markov blankets https://t.co/WywmVfHMmk
@distributedcog This is essentially the idea behind active inference in nested Markov blankets https://t.co/WywmVfHMmk
The Markov blankets of life: autonomy, active inference and the free energy principle | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/EMXIU09Cbm
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