Proc Biol Sci October 2019 PMID 31594504

Head to head: the case for fighting behaviour in using finite-element analysis.

Ada J Klinkhamer, Nicholas Woodley, James M Neenan, William C H Parr, Philip Clausen, Marcelo R Sánchez-Villagra, Gabriele Sansalone, Adrian M Lister, Stephen Wroe

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Many discussions highlight excitement over the biomechanical analysis, with phrases like 'very 'deer' to my heart' and references to detailed modeling studies, indicating strong interest and perceived importance. The tone includes scientific enthusiasm and curiosity, emphasizing the research's potential to reshape understanding of ancient fighting behaviors.

AgreementStrong agreement

Most discussions support the study’s conclusions, suggesting consensus on the idea that fighting behavior was feasible in Megaloceros giganteus.

InterestHigh interest

Posts show high curiosity and enthusiasm about the biomechanical aspects and implications of the research.

EngagementModerate engagement

Several comments demonstrate moderate to deep engagement, citing specific methods like finite-element analysis and discussing antler structure.

ImpactHigh impact

Participants believe the findings have significant implications for understanding prehistoric animal behavior and evolution.

Abstract in brief

  • The study used finite element analysis to evaluate if the giant deer's antlers could have withstood forces during fights, challenging the idea that their large antlers were only for display.
  • The results indicated that giant deer's antlers could have endured some fighting forces, especially those involving twisting, thanks to their structure and how they interlocked.
  • The findings suggest that fighting behavior in the giant deer was likely more limited and predictable compared to modern deer species, which often use more aggressive fighting techniques.]

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Dr James Neenan
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After getting home from a fantastic #SVP2019 I'd like to share our new paper that came out last week that's very 'deer' to my heart! Antler biomechanics of the giant Irish Elk! @ada_klinkhamer @StephenWroe @PalaeoScience @morethanadodo. Check it out here: https://t.co/S1WHxloycp https://t.co/v5vBkulxDD

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Jacy Reese Anthis
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Megaloceros giganteus (i.e. "giant deer" or "Irish elk"): up to 2m (7ft) tall with the largest antlers of any animal at 3.6m (12ft) across. Could these massive mantles be used for fighting? A 2019 study argues yes, based on computer modeling of the impact. https://t.co/WPafc723nR https://t.co/oBO89ReGCf

Jun 15, 2020 · 12 likes · 27,246 followers View post →
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絶滅したギガンテウスオオツノシカの枝角は、近くの枝角が連結している限りは戦闘の負荷にいくらか耐えることができたと推察される。「押し」より「ねじれ」に強かったと考えられる。Head to head: the case for fighting behaviour in Megaloceros giganteus using finite… https://t.co/jhlZ0Ka2FO

Oct 11, 2019 · 5 likes · 6 shares · 5,484 followers View post →
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A biomecânica da galhada de Megaloceros giganteus https://t.co/YxSYWyMWzU

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Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
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Head to head: the case for fighting behaviour in Megaloceros giganteus using finite-element analysis | Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences https://t.co/CDOJeY9oH5

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Ausarchosaur
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@krish_bohra There was a study done for M. giganteus. They would need to lock antlers at the middle tine and make twisting rather than pushing motions. It could still fight, but it would have been more constrained in what it could do and more predictable. https://t.co/Th72HWP2VM

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@krish_bohra There was a study done for M. giganteus. They would need to lock antlers at the middle tine and make twisting rather than pushing motions. It could still fight, but it would have been more constrained in what it could do and more predictable. https://t.co/Th72HWP2VM

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@jacyanthis · X

Megaloceros giganteus (i.e. "giant deer" or "Irish elk"): up to 2m (7ft) tall with the largest antlers of any animal at 3.6m (12ft) across. Could these massive mantles be used for fighting? A 2019 study argues yes, based on computer modeling of the impact. https://t.co/WPafc723nR https://t.co/oBO89ReGCf

Jun 15, 2020 · 12 likes · 27,246 followers View post →
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After getting home from a fantastic #SVP2019 I'd like to share our new paper that came out last week that's very 'deer' to my heart! Antler biomechanics of the giant Irish Elk! @ada_klinkhamer @StephenWroe @PalaeoScience @morethanadodo. Check it out here: https://t.co/S1WHxloycp https://t.co/v5vBkulxDD

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絶滅したギガンテウスオオツノシカの枝角は、近くの枝角が連結している限りは戦闘の負荷にいくらか耐えることができたと推察される。「押し」より「ねじれ」に強かったと考えられる。Head to head: the case for fighting behaviour in Megaloceros giganteus using finite… https://t.co/jhlZ0Ka2FO

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