The overall discussions reveal a critical stance towards the Handicap Principle, with posts like 'There is no theoretical or empirical support' and calls for its 'honorable retirement.' The tone varies from analytical to dismissive, emphasizing how recent research and reviews have invalidated its foundational claims, indicating a major impact on the scientific understanding of honest signaling.
AgreementStrong disagreement
Most discussions strongly oppose the Handicap Principle, emphasizing its lack of support and calling for its retirement.
InterestHigh interest
There is high interest shown in analyzing and debating the validity of the hypothesis, with users engaging deeply with the topic's history and critiques.
EngagementModerate engagement
Many posts reference specific models, critiques, and historical figures, indicating active engagement and detailed analysis.
ImpactLow impact
The widespread rejection and calls for discarding the principle suggest a significant shift in scientific consensus, though some still discuss its historical influence.
Abstract in brief
The Handicap Principle, proposed by Zahavi in 1975, suggests that honest signals in animal communication are maintained because they are costly to produce, which ensures their reliability, although this idea has faced many criticisms.
Despite criticisms, the Handicap Principle became widely accepted in scientific communities, with researchers focusing on testing its predictions, such as measuring the costs associated with signaling to understand honesty in communication.
The critique in this text argues that the idea of signals being honest due to their costliness is erroneous, and it explains how the principle was mistakenly regarded as a general explanation for honest signaling across different species and contexts.]
Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the biological sciences, into an ‘honorable retirement’. https://t.co/QbCZ6BN2VI https://t.co/JW8KTm1ThV
Oct 24, 2019 · 23 likes · 7 shares · 69,593 followersView post →
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David Schmitt
@PsychoSchmitt · X
"Zahavi’s second hypothesis...males adjust their investment into expression of sexual signals according to their condition & ability to bear costs (& risks to survival)...better understood within a Darwinian framework of adaptive signalling trade-offs" https://t.co/hJg1FgT0Xh https://t.co/6EGxcNjxjU
Oct 26, 2019 · 17 likes · 7 shares · 12,407 followersView post →
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Jente Ottenburghs | Avian Hybrids
@Jente_O · X
Currently reading this extensive paper on the "Handicap Principle". Very interesting to follow the history of this idea.
We need more papers like this. Tracing the development and criticism of evolutionarily concepts can provide important insights.
https://t.co/4nPXRUz0CT https://t.co/oOd9YbZ9HU
Oct 14, 2020 · 11 likes · 3 shares · 4,037 followersView post →
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Alexander Kotrschal
@KotrschalA · X
I met the late Amotz Zahavi as student. I had just learned about the handicap principle and was starstruck as he explained my 'stress vs. mouse telomeres' poster to me using his handicap principle. Would have been interesting to hear his opinion on this.
https://t.co/Z9jpR84LRg
Dec 7, 2020 · 11 likes · 1,389 followersView post →
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Rob
@Rob_GCC · X
Any second layer PoW implemention on top of bitcoin is just adding inefficiencies to the system. Handicaps are a lot more complicated, and do not ensure "honest signals" (bitcoin's incentive system extends beyond just mining a single block).
https://t.co/ttR6rE6DsO
Aug 1, 2020 · 9 likes · 2 shares · 5,239 followersView post →
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Rob Sica
@robsica · X
Oct 26, 2019 · 8 likes · 4 shares · 5,572 followersView post →
Aesthetic pleasure is linked to how easily and fluently a person can process an object, with more fluid processing leading to more positive aesthetic responses. Variables like contrast, repetition, symmetry, and priming…
The Handicap Principle, proposed in 1975, suggests honest animal signals are costly to ensure reliability. Despite numerous criticisms, it became widely accepted. This video critically examines the validity of the…
ハンディキャップ理論は理論・実証いずれにおいても誤りであり、正直シグナルの進化を説明するのには不適という主張。
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Penn & Számadó (2020) The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle. Biological Reviews, 95:267―290
https://t.co/x2qlbs2q79
The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle
https://t.co/ObZk6diPXQ
"We show that Grafen's models do not support the handicap hypothesis, although they do support Zahavi's second hypothesis, which proposes that males adjust their investment
RT @Oliver_S_Curry: "There is no theoretical or empirical support for the Handicap Principle and the time is long overdue to usher this ide…
Aug 22, 2024 · 3 shares · 1,112 followersView post →
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Andrew G. Thomas
@DrThomasAG · X
RT @Oliver_S_Curry: "There is no theoretical or empirical support for the Handicap Principle and the time is long overdue to usher this ide…
Aug 22, 2024 · 3 shares · 5,284 followersView post →
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Mark Collard
@profmarkcollard · X
RT @Oliver_S_Curry: "There is no theoretical or empirical support for the Handicap Principle and the time is long overdue to usher this ide…
Aug 22, 2024 · 3 shares · 2,614 followersView post →
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Oliver Scott Curry
@Oliver_S_Curry · X
"There is no theoretical or empirical support for the Handicap Principle and the time is long overdue to usher this idea into an ‘honorable retirement’."
Aug 22, 2024 · 6 likes · 3 shares · 5,935 followersView post →
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Hanch Tarchup Jr.
@misharipov · X
@CyanHyprPsychic The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle
https://t.co/C0HHFPLXNI
@NotUrFavDoc فيما يخص الـ handicap hypothesis كنت لسه معدي علي ورقة بحثية بتقول إنها مغلوطة علمياً - ممكن تطلع علي الورقة وتشوف بنفسك https://t.co/KS7k9aszko - فيما يخص الطاووس بقي لو إحنا بنتكلم عن الـ sexual selection - اللي هي بتخش ضمن إطار الفرضية - برضه تم إجراء تجربة ..
For me, the most memorable tidbit of information was about the Handicap principle, and how subsequent, recent research destroyed its reliability & trustworthiness (https://t.co/fdHaGkon0s)#WhatIlearnedin39C
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'Handicap theory', example a peacock wastes lot of energy to showcase her beauty & the opposite gender likes it. To learn more visit the following site https://t.co/DXyCHRgqX0
Mar 18, 2021 · 3 likes · 4,566 followersView post →
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Alex Birsan
@AlexBirsan · X
RT @dansperber: Enlightening paper
https://t.co/pViZDgh6Tw
This idea overshadowed so much discussion and research during the first decade or so of my research career; this detailed analysis looks like another for the 'to read pile'!
The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle...
I met the late Amotz Zahavi as student. I had just learned about the handicap principle and was starstruck as he explained my 'stress vs. mouse telomeres' poster to me using his handicap principle. Would have been interesting to hear his opinion on this.
https://t.co/Z9jpR84LRg
Dec 7, 2020 · 11 likes · 1,389 followersView post →
Oct 30, 2020 · 2 likes · 10,946 followersView post →
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James Boyle, PhD
@JBoyle_Paleo · X
RT @Jente_O: Currently reading this extensive paper on the "Handicap Principle". Very interesting to follow the history of this idea.
We…
Oct 18, 2020 · 3 shares · 320 followersView post →
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Esteban Botero D.
@EBoteroD · X
If you are reading this tweet right now, please do yourself a favor and read this:
The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle https://t.co/anEzIQP3kh
RT @Jente_O: Currently reading this extensive paper on the "Handicap Principle". Very interesting to follow the history of this idea.
We…
Oct 14, 2020 · 3 shares · 335 followersView post →
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Himender Bharti
@adubharti · X
RT @Jente_O: Currently reading this extensive paper on the "Handicap Principle". Very interesting to follow the history of this idea.
We…
Oct 14, 2020 · 3 shares · 1,330 followersView post →
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Jente Ottenburghs | Avian Hybrids
@Jente_O · X
Currently reading this extensive paper on the "Handicap Principle". Very interesting to follow the history of this idea.
We need more papers like this. Tracing the development and criticism of evolutionarily concepts can provide important insights.
https://t.co/4nPXRUz0CT https://t.co/oOd9YbZ9HU
Oct 14, 2020 · 11 likes · 3 shares · 4,037 followersView post →
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Bitcoin News
@channelBSV · X
RT @Rob_GCC: Any second layer PoW implemention on top of bitcoin is just adding inefficiencies to the system. Handicaps are a lot more comp…
Aug 2, 2020 · 2 shares · 6,237 followersView post →
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Rob
@Rob_GCC · X
Any second layer PoW implemention on top of bitcoin is just adding inefficiencies to the system. Handicaps are a lot more complicated, and do not ensure "honest signals" (bitcoin's incentive system extends beyond just mining a single block).
https://t.co/ttR6rE6DsO
Aug 1, 2020 · 9 likes · 2 shares · 5,239 followersView post →
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Bruce McTague
@BruceMctague · X
@eaonp @yannikyriacos ok.
i learned something new tonite.
i had never heard of it. but i like it.
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i found a spectacular piece arguing against Zahavi.
https://t.co/ZSH0DLNitK
May 26, 2020 · 4 likes · 3,310 followersView post →
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Dr. Dawn Bazely is @DawnBazely@mastodon.world
@dawnbazely · X
@rvosa Amotz Zahavi would love that!
We shared an office when I was a grad student & he was back at EGI, Oxford as a visiting prof. He was a hoot.
I found this recent, nice paper:
The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle https://t.co/nYhjPk14sf
The Handicap Prirnciple—as usual it leaves out FEMALE CHOICE FOR FEMALE BENEFIT (Trivers 1985, pp 353-358; Seger & Trivers 1986). Full downloads available at https://t.co/0Zzewq5rft https://t.co/60joJKvyc8
https://t.co/Sng1O3Gqmp interesting read: according to these authors there is no theoretical or empirical support for the Handicap Principle (which proposes that signals are honest because they are costly to produce)
Fashions in animal behaviour: The Handicap Principle, debunked in important new paper by Penn, DJ & Számadó, S "The HP: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle" Biol Reviews https://t.co/BIrUfsUXGR
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Oct 31, 2019 · 1 like · 3,812 followersView post →
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F. Schwab
@FSchwab6 · X
RT @PsychoSchmitt: "Zahavi’s second hypothesis...males adjust their investment into expression of sexual signals according to their conditi…
Oct 27, 2019 · 7 shares · 304 followersView post →
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F. Schwab
@FSchwab6 · X
RT @robsica:
Oct 27, 2019 · 4 shares · 304 followersView post →
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Dr Kit Prendergast
@BeeBabette · X
The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous #hypothesis became a #scientific principle . #rewritethetextbooks #sexualselection #evolution #matechoice https://t.co/ApC2qhDXlE
Oct 27, 2019 · 1 like · 3,112 followersView post →
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sakanoue no fusigi
@seeker98747 · X
RT @robsica:
Oct 27, 2019 · 4 shares · 325 followersView post →
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Seçkin Sosyal
@seckinsosyal · X
RT @PsychoSchmitt: "Zahavi’s second hypothesis...males adjust their investment into expression of sexual signals according to their conditi…
Oct 27, 2019 · 7 shares · 176 followersView post →
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Victor Shiramizu
@victorshiramizu · X
RT @PsychoSchmitt: "Zahavi’s second hypothesis...males adjust their investment into expression of sexual signals according to their conditi…
Oct 27, 2019 · 7 shares · 479 followersView post →
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Oliver Scott Curry
@Oliver_S_Curry · X
RT @robsica:
Oct 26, 2019 · 4 shares · 5,935 followersView post →
RT @PsychoSchmitt: "Zahavi’s second hypothesis...males adjust their investment into expression of sexual signals according to their conditi…
Oct 26, 2019 · 7 shares · 30,067 followersView post →
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David Schmitt
@PsychoSchmitt · X
"Zahavi’s second hypothesis...males adjust their investment into expression of sexual signals according to their condition & ability to bear costs (& risks to survival)...better understood within a Darwinian framework of adaptive signalling trade-offs" https://t.co/hJg1FgT0Xh https://t.co/6EGxcNjxjU
Oct 26, 2019 · 17 likes · 7 shares · 12,407 followersView post →
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Jente Ottenburghs | Avian Hybrids
@Jente_O · X
The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle
https://t.co/cAmsBQthlz
Oct 25, 2019 · 2 likes · 1 share · 4,037 followersView post →
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I don't know much
@paquibena · X
RT @DegenRolf: Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the bi…
Oct 25, 2019 · 7 shares · 262 followersView post →
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La Nueva Ilustración Evolucionista
@newilustracion · X
RT @DegenRolf: Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the bi…
Oct 24, 2019 · 7 shares · 3,775 followersView post →
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Psychology Bot
@PsychologyBot24 · X
The Handicap Principle: how an erroneous hypothesis became a scientific principle https://t.co/xcylUO2SEY #psychology
RT @DegenRolf: Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the bi…
Oct 24, 2019 · 7 shares · 1,631 followersView post →
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Siberian fox
@SilverVVulpes · X
RT @DegenRolf: Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the bi…
Oct 24, 2019 · 7 shares · 6,268 followersView post →
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José Luis Ricón Fernández de la Puente
@ArtirKel · X
RT @DegenRolf: Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the bi…
Oct 24, 2019 · 7 shares · 22,686 followersView post →
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@wwells668 · X
RT @DegenRolf: Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the bi…
Oct 24, 2019 · 7 shares · 1,326 followersView post →
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Rolf Degen
@DegenRolf · X
Review paper calls for ushering the Handicap Principle, the most widely accepted explanation for honest signalling in the biological sciences, into an ‘honorable retirement’. https://t.co/QbCZ6BN2VI https://t.co/JW8KTm1ThV
Oct 24, 2019 · 23 likes · 7 shares · 69,593 followersView post →
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