The collective discussions reflect a nuanced understanding of the article’s findings, with comments referencing specific studies, debates over methodological biases, and regional differences, illustrating active engagement and interest. Words like 'alarming,' 'nuanced,' and references to meta-analyses emphasize both concern and the complexity of insect population trends.
AgreementModerate agreement
Most discussions support the findings of the meta-analysis, acknowledging the decline of terrestrial insects and the increase in freshwater insects, with some skepticism about the severity or causes.
InterestHigh interest
Participants display high interest, referencing specific data, regional differences, and methodological debates, showing engagement with complex ecological issues.
EngagementModerate engagement
Many posts delve into methodological details, regional studies, and implications, indicating active engagement beyond surface-level commentary.
ImpactModerate impact
While the discussions highlight important ecological trends, they suggest a moderate perceived impact, mainly emphasizing the importance of understanding insect dynamics rather than immediate policy changes.
Abstract in brief
A meta-analysis of 166 long-term insect studies across 1676 sites found that terrestrial insects are declining in abundance by about 9% per decade, while freshwater insects are increasing by approximately 11% per decade, with notable regional differences mainly in North America and Europe.
There was significant variation in insect trends even among nearby sites, and some potential drivers like land use changes and protected areas showed weaker associations with these trends.
Overall, the study offers a more detailed and complex understanding of how insect populations are changing across different environments and regions, challenging simpler narratives of widespread declines.
Eén van de meest zorgwekkende trends is de achteruitgang van de landinsecten. Van Klink et al. (2020) spreken van een achteruitgang met -1% per jaar, gebaseerd op een analyse van 166 studies. Weliswaar geen achteruitgang bij zoetwaterbeestjes. 16/ https://t.co/E3g7Gjh08y https://t.co/3xpODMDakN
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Patrick Vincourt
@PVincourt · X
"Nuanced changes in insect abundance":
https://t.co/6PHYU8ZDNA https://t.co/Ke0Eaykub3
Estamos perdiendo cerca de un 9% de los insectos terrestres por cada década que pasa. Curiosamente, los insectos de agua dulce están aumentando, pero son una porción muy pequeña del total (metaanálisis, 166 estudios) https://t.co/90qQu5irEB (blog, abajo) https://t.co/uSjxTRS5KT
however, what REALLY offends me is the alarming population decline of terrestrial arthropods that seems to be driven by human land use and lack of environmental protections
May 11, 2020 · 7 likes · 2 shares · 4,765 followersView post →
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Ou_est_la_Source?
@SourceOu · X
b) Et histoire de passer sous silence la controverse, cet article ne mentionne pas cette publication d’avril 2020 (avec un erratum d’oct.2020):
Meta-analysis reveals declines in terrestrial but increases in freshwater insect abundances.
https://t.co/o8vFE9wU2K
Jan 30, 2021 · 6 likes · 3 shares · 296 followersView post →
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Bill Wirtz
@wirtzbill · X
@AssaadRazzouk How superficial is a meta-analysis of 166 long-term studies, performed at 1,676 sites around the world between the years 1925 and 2018, negating your apocalyptic scenario?
This time it's not me, so maybe you'll bother to read : https://t.co/p11aEpAF73
Dec 28, 2022 · 5 likes · 2,526 followersView post →
Explore the significant findings from a 27-year study revealing a 76% decline in flying insect biomass across protected areas in Germany. This video delves into the implications for ecosystems and biodiversity…
The decline of insect biodiversity poses a serious threat to society. This video explores the alarming decrease in terrestrial insects, with insights from scientific studies and experts on the factors affecting insect…
@Kev_de_solal @shizu006 @RemDumDum Dans les milieux aquatiques, là où pesticide, médicaments, produits d'entretiens et autre additifs alimentaires ésotériques viennent s'accumuler les pops d'insectes croissent.
C'est un résultat très étonnant si on est bloqué dans les thèses chimiques
https://t.co/ne41qG1M4G
Erratum for the Report “Meta-analysis reveals declines in terrestrial but increases in freshwater insect abundances” by R. Van Klink, D. E. Bowler, K. B. Gongalsky, A. B. Swengel, A. Gentile, J. M. Chase | Science https://t.co/T6YHjL7ihq
1. Van Klink et al. (2020): Meta-analysis reveals declines in terrestrial but increases in freshwater insect abundances. - Science 368(6489): 417-420. DOI: 10.1126/science.aax9931
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@DavidCormand 2ème problème : la forte hétérogénéité des conclusions due aux difficultés méthodologiques permet de faire jouer le cherry picking du plus anxiogène au plus rassurant.
Par exemple la plus grosse (et récente) meta-analyse est bien moins alarmiste. 3/3
https://t.co/AzgwuEuU0r
@GeWoessner Dans Science on a une meta-analyse plus récente qui estime à 9% par décennies le déclin des insectes terrestres. Par contre en milieu aquatique les populations augmenteraient de 11%.
Mais là aussi des biais méthodologiques ont été mis en évidence.
https://t.co/AzgwuEumaT
@GeWoessner Ou cette méta-analyse qui constate bien un déclin des insectes terrestres, mais une hausse des espèces aquatiques. Une correction arrive aussi à la conclusion que les preuves du déclin sont faibles en Europe.
https://t.co/FHxjMolwim https://t.co/Qy9uJjpuWB
RT @WVeraghtert: Eén van de meest zorgwekkende trends is de achteruitgang van de landinsecten. Van Klink et al. (2020) spreken van een acht…
Mar 24, 2024 · 1 share · 1,396 followersView post →
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Wim Veraghtert
@WVeraghtert · X
Eén van de meest zorgwekkende trends is de achteruitgang van de landinsecten. Van Klink et al. (2020) spreken van een achteruitgang met -1% per jaar, gebaseerd op een analyse van 166 studies. Weliswaar geen achteruitgang bij zoetwaterbeestjes. 16/ https://t.co/E3g7Gjh08y https://t.co/3xpODMDakN
Mar 19, 2024 · 21 likes · 1 share · 930 followersView post →
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Wim Veraghtert
@WVeraghtert · X
@gerardgovers Dat ga ik niet in twijfel trekken, maar uit Europa liggen een serie (veelal lokalere) studies voor die drastische achteruitgang van o.a. loopkevers, zweefvliegen, vlinders en spinnen aantonen. Misschien ook deze metastudie ernaast leggen: https://t.co/E3g7Gjh08y
@hmlfpereira @TysonWepprich Just as distressing, 2%/yr decline in butterfly abundance lines of with same decline across insects on land, globally. Important meta-analysis by Roel VanKlink @Jon_Chase03 https://t.co/QzvwKDSAao
@no_username_yet @MaxCRoser (a) I'm not angry.
(b) I pointed out the increased life expectancy, which is observable data. You have asserted negative effects but shown nothing specific.
(c) With regard to insects, you might want to read https://t.co/pl7FlCNKhM since the situation is far from simple.
RT @physorg_biology: Insects are vanishing worldwide—now it's making it harder to grow food @ConversationEDU https://t.co/1Qnxl1hqiW https:…
Feb 15, 2023 · 1 share · 1,307 followersView post →
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Phys.org Biology
@physorg_biology · X
Insects are vanishing worldwide—now it's making it harder to grow food @ConversationEDU https://t.co/1Qnxl1hqiW https://t.co/hkbVfBzNV5
Feb 15, 2023 · 1 like · 1 share · 8,044 followersView post →
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Cron-bneu
@cron_bneu · X
@MrNeilerua @emma_ducros L'abandon des néonicotinoïdes n'a montré nulle part une inversion de tendance.
D'autre part personne n'est en mesure de chiffrer le déclin des insectes ni ses causes.
Même la plus grosse meta analyse sur le sujet ne fait pas consensus ⤵️
https://t.co/Ff6irDqMkv
@TimoKuentzle Das is ne stark verfälschte Wiedergabe dieses Reports, laut welchen die Artenzusammensetzung um 25% über 30 Jahre abgenommen hat! Die MetaStudie von van Klink et al. zeigt über die Zeit zunehmende Rückgänge der terrestrischen Insektenpopulation in Europa https://t.co/OkIabszDdB
@AssaadRazzouk How superficial is a meta-analysis of 166 long-term studies, performed at 1,676 sites around the world between the years 1925 and 2018, negating your apocalyptic scenario?
This time it's not me, so maybe you'll bother to read : https://t.co/p11aEpAF73
Dec 28, 2022 · 5 likes · 2,526 followersView post →
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@smartenwinter.bsky.social
@sMarten_Winter · X
@ChrisKlausmeier I suggest to kind of spanning the gradient. Add Predicts & Living Planet Index papers
And a personal fav is this one here: https://t.co/6age2CCNwD
Nov 2, 2022 · 2 likes · 4,408 followersView post →
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Jonathan Chase
@Jon_Chase03 · X
@_PhilMartin @gehrlein_j And one I was involved in that directly analyzed the relevant data (here for abundance/biomass but another for diversity forthcoming).
https://t.co/ZrzvBF1Fs8
Oct 27, 2022 · 3 likes · 6,349 followersView post →
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Raj Rajagopal
@rajagopalbs · X
RT @foodsafetyprof: Though provoking article: Meta-analysis reveals declines in terrestrial but increases in freshwater insect abundances h…
Though provoking article: Meta-analysis reveals declines in terrestrial but increases in freshwater insect abundances https://t.co/cP6RKQPdda: how do we protect terrestrial insect diversity in the US
Oct 19, 2022 · 1 share · 2,203 followersView post →
@BrianRoemmele 1/ Now that you mention it, I can't recall any offered evidence that total insect population is substantially decreasing. When I google for papers, I find stuff like this, suggesting lower loss rates and local drivers.
https://t.co/xE0odgFGYv
Difficile d'avoir un portrait global de la situation des insectes. Certaines études semblent indiquer de forte baisse alors que d'autres non. Même si la situation semble parfois inquiétante, le mot hécatombe n’est pas approprié.
https://t.co/RGRhUQYYzQ
https://t.co/9DyoCi1mKe
@ZoltanChivay92 @laurent_berthod @GeWoessner une méta-analyse publiée en 2020 dans Science qui confirme le déclin, tout en relativisant l'ampleur: ↘ ~9%/décade pour les insectes terrestres mais ↗ ~11%/décade pour les insectes aquatiques.
→ https://t.co/FHxjMolwim
@Taigasangare une méta-analyse récente publiée dans Science qui confirme le déclin, tout en relativisant l'ampleur: ↘ ~9%/décade pour les insectes terrestres mais ↗ ~11%/décade pour les insectes aquatiques.
→ https://t.co/FHxjMolwim
Jun 13, 2022 · 1 like · 1,102 followersView post →
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Matthew Humphries
@mthwgeek · X
@Adrian_Hilton there doesn't seem to be a smoking gun for the cause, but a study published in 2020 found the destruction of natural habitats due to urbanisation, to be key. https://t.co/oK8oMCjg9M via https://t.co/rMejwGiAuY
@HawkesSj @drnickisaac @Buzz_dont_tweet Below is a meta-analysis which suggests much more moderate (but still concerning) declines overall
https://t.co/XyulHuRjvE
May 7, 2022 · 4 likes · 6,966 followersView post →
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Wackes Seppi
@SeppiWackes · X
@VillaniCedric @CoopUnivitis Il y a aussi deux articles "scandaleux", "hérétiques", "Meta-analysis reveals declines in terrestrial but increases in freshwater insect abundances de Roel van Klink et al...
https://t.co/5d0XfSSBOG
Apr 21, 2022 · 1 like · 1,817 followersView post →
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Chistery1
@Chistery1 · X
RT @GuyPeer3: 2. We're sure
Meta-analysis by @PunksInScience confirmed global declines, albeit not same rates and not for freshwater insec…
Dec 31, 2021 · 2 shares · 763 followersView post →
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ffp2_ClimateAction& Biodiversity
@HeidiA03247286 · X
RT @GuyPeer3: 2. We're sure
Meta-analysis by @PunksInScience confirmed global declines, albeit not same rates and not for freshwater insec…
Oct 23, 2021 · 2 shares · 167 followersView post →
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Guy Pe'er
@GuyPeer3 · X
2. We're sure
Meta-analysis by @PunksInScience confirmed global declines, albeit not same rates and not for freshwater insects.
BUT: Major data gaps for subtropical and tropical regions where a) most insects resides and b) rapid land-use change occur.
https://t.co/kq2lUN6PNr
Oct 15, 2021 · 4 likes · 2 shares · 2,166 followersView post →
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AlainCo #JeSuisPrometheen e/acc
@alain_co · X
RT @SourceOu: b) Et histoire de passer sous silence la controverse, cet article ne mentionne pas cette publication d’avril 2020 (avec un er…
Feb 2, 2021 · 3 shares · 3,335 followersView post →
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L'Union attaque
@Puissante_UE · X
RT @SourceOu: b) Et histoire de passer sous silence la controverse, cet article ne mentionne pas cette publication d’avril 2020 (avec un er…
RT @SourceOu: b) Et histoire de passer sous silence la controverse, cet article ne mentionne pas cette publication d’avril 2020 (avec un er…
Feb 1, 2021 · 3 shares · 1,032 followersView post →
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Ou_est_la_Source?
@SourceOu · X
b) Et histoire de passer sous silence la controverse, cet article ne mentionne pas cette publication d’avril 2020 (avec un erratum d’oct.2020):
Meta-analysis reveals declines in terrestrial but increases in freshwater insect abundances.
https://t.co/o8vFE9wU2K
Jan 30, 2021 · 6 likes · 3 shares · 296 followersView post →
Just this year van Klink etal (DOI: 10.1126/science.aax9931) found global declines in terrestrial insect populations.
Apart from their indirect services, insects are still inspiring biomimetic technology for humans, underscoring their importance. #ironclad
https://t.co/im858XIkys
@JL_Vayssiere Clubic met toujours les liens sources en bas d'article : https://t.co/DUqpSMkrhc
DOI (pour le trouver ailleurs) : 10.1126/science.aax9931
RT @neville_park: however, what REALLY offends me is the alarming population decline of terrestrial arthropods that seems to be driven by h…
May 12, 2020 · 2 shares · 1,950 followersView post →
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Jun
@ni075 · X
RT @neville_park: however, what REALLY offends me is the alarming population decline of terrestrial arthropods that seems to be driven by h…
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Neville Park (inactive)
@neville_park · X
however, what REALLY offends me is the alarming population decline of terrestrial arthropods that seems to be driven by human land use and lack of environmental protections
May 11, 2020 · 7 likes · 2 shares · 4,765 followersView post →
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@lai_dama · X
RT @BioTay: Estamos perdiendo cerca de un 9% de los insectos terrestres por cada década que pasa. Curiosamente, los insectos de agua dulce…
Estamos perdiendo cerca de un 9% de los insectos terrestres por cada década que pasa. Curiosamente, los insectos de agua dulce están aumentando, pero son una porción muy pequeña del total (metaanálisis, 166 estudios) https://t.co/90qQu5irEB (blog, abajo) https://t.co/uSjxTRS5KT
The widely reported “insect apocalypse” is more nuanced than work suggests, according to new @idiv study, which reports findings of meta-analysis using data from 166 surveys across 1,676 sites worldwide. Global insect trends reflect both decline + growth. https://t.co/zGLJuzB5Re https://t.co/eJ6hO82zOs
Apr 23, 2020 · 1 like · 1,959 followersView post →