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95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です）。 https://t.co/7TgFhk6zMD https://t.co/VVNPYhsWfp
@DataSciFact @JohnDCook It’s true, and there are so many other misconceptions regarding what hypotheses you can generate p values for and many misconceptions of assumptions. Here’s a definition we give in our paper: https://t.co/uUDid9Iv4T https://t.co/i9FpvzV78w
@david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptive terms like "significance" and "confidence" to describe P-values and intervals based on P-value functions (which show the compatibility of effect sizes with data), NOT to retire P-values https://t.co/Tnq4bZSoAQ
#統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise Z. Rafi, S. Greenland BMC medical research methodology, 2020 の音声概要を作り直しました。v2.0 倍程度長くなっています。 https://t.co/edVLDBzMvA https://t.co/xgejVsa6tc
Glad to see this finally up, it’s open access so anyone can read it and has been in the works for nearly two years, partly due to the amount of helpful feedback and comments we’ve received. 1/n link: https://t.co/h21MqyylSO enhanced PDF: https://t.co/1CTzHHhBgY https://t.co/Mau8GBd1jw
Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise | BMC Medical Research Methodology | Full Text https://t.co/XQitszfKjX
Researchers often misinterpret statistical outputs, leading to a demand for new methods replacing traditional P-values. This video reviews cognitive aspects influencing such misinterpretations and presents an argument…
This video presents a guided example addressing common misinterpretations of P-values. Rooted in recent research, it explores the benefits of viewing P-values as measures of compatibility, enhancing researchers'…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 NotebookLMで作った以下の論文の動画解説 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confi…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 NotebookLMで作った以下の論文の動画解説 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confi…
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 NotebookLMで作った以下の論文の動画解説 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confi…
#統計 NotebookLMで作った以下の論文の動画解説 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise Z. Rafi, S. Greenland BMC medical research methodology, 2020 https://t.co/Ln5X0NzCwQ https://t.co/F1yhNNbvLk
RT @genkuroki: #統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by…
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
#統計 https://t.co/MxoRcISI2B Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise Z. Rafi, S. Greenland BMC medical research methodology, 2020 の音声概要を作り直しました。v2.0 倍程度長くなっています。 https://t.co/edVLDBzMvA https://t.co/xgejVsa6tc
RT @genkuroki: #統計 過信の原因になる「信頼」と「有意性」の概念を「相性の良さ」(compatibility)に置き換える提案 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statis…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 過信の原因になる「信頼」と「有意性」の概念を「相性の良さ」(compatibility)に置き換える提案 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statis…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 添付画像はRafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui より。 P値=0.9999とP値=0.90の比は0.9999/0.90=1.111で1に近く、P値=0.10とP値=0.0001の比は0.1…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 Rafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK のsurprisal value = S値について。S値は S値 = -log₂ P値 (単位はビット) と定義されます。P値の違いの大きさはS値の…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 巷では統計学通を騙る半可通達が P値ではなく信頼区間を使える(ニヤ) と言っているようだが、既出の論文 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui Rafi-Greenland 2020 は信頼区間も悪しき二分法の原因になって…
#統計 過信の原因になる「信頼」と「有意性」の概念を「相性の良さ」(compatibility)に置き換える提案 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise Zad Rafi & Sander Greenland 2020 https://t.co/RiBTl4074a https://t.co/tyxmIWKRiM
RT @genkuroki: #統計 添付画像はRafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui より。 P値=0.9999とP値=0.90の差と、P値=0.10とP値=0.0001の差は、どちらも0.0999なのですが、P値の差でP値の…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 Rafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK の音声概要 https://t.co/7tGGHWuEWe (9分) https://t.co/8fMSN2X1TH
#統計 添付画像はRafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui より。 P値=0.9999とP値=0.90の比は0.9999/0.90=1.111で1に近く、P値=0.10とP値=0.0001の比は0.10/0.0001=1000で非常に大きい。 P値=0.9999とP値=0.90の違いは小さく、P値=0.10とP値=0.0001の違いは非常に大きい。続く https://t.co/LlwgVTZiSo
#統計 添付画像はRafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui より。 P値=0.9999とP値=0.90の差と、P値=0.10とP値=0.0001の差は、どちらも0.0999なのですが、P値の差でP値の違いの大きさを測るのは誤りになります。 P値の違いの大きさは、差ではなく、比で測る必要があります。続く https://t.co/UNhNCRAjtb
#統計 Rafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK のsurprisal value = S値について。S値は S値 = -log₂ P値 (単位はビット) と定義されます。P値の違いの大きさはS値の違いの大きさで見るべきです。P値のままだと一般人は違いの程度を誤解し易い。続く https://t.co/ivl5fGRsN3 https://t.co/xgejVs9yDE
RT @genkuroki: #統計 巷では統計学通を騙る半可通達が P値ではなく信頼区間を使える(ニヤ) と言っているようだが、既出の論文 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui Rafi-Greenland 2020 は信頼区間も悪しき二分法の原因になって…
RT @genkuroki: #統計 Rafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK の音声概要 https://t.co/7tGGHWuEWe (9分) https://t.co/8fMSN2X1TH
#統計 巷では統計学通を騙る半可通達が P値ではなく信頼区間を使える(ニヤ) と言っているようだが、既出の論文 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui Rafi-Greenland 2020 は信頼区間も悪しき二分法の原因になっていることが分かるように書かれています。 半可通達は多分この手の論文を読もうとしていない。 https://t.co/xgejVsa6tc
#統計 Rafi-Greenland 2020 https://t.co/1qdgTcOKEK の音声概要 https://t.co/7tGGHWuEWe (9分) https://t.co/8fMSN2X1TH
RT @ai_biostat: 「有意性」「信頼区間」という用語の代わりに「互換性（compatibility）」「互換性区間（compatibility interval）」という表現を提案しています。音声リンクはこちら
RT @ai_biostat: 「有意性」「信頼区間」という用語の代わりに「互換性（compatibility）」「互換性区間（compatibility interval）」という表現を提案しています。音声リンクはこちら
RT @ai_biostat: 「有意性」「信頼区間」という用語の代わりに「互換性（compatibility）」「互換性区間（compatibility interval）」という表現を提案しています。音声リンクはこちら
「有意性」「信頼区間」という用語の代わりに「互換性（compatibility）」「互換性区間（compatibility interval）」という表現を提案しています。音声リンクはこちら
RT @genkuroki: #統計 論文へのリンク https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and signifi…
#統計 論文へのリンク https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise Zad Rafi & Sander Greenland 2020 大体においてP値に関する正しい考え方についてはGreenlandさん達の論文がお勧め。 https://t.co/HWsRJYZF4N
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
@HRH_Ted Based on your comment, I'm guessing you don't know what a confidence interval is or what it represents. Here's a good summary review to read, if interested. https://t.co/WcpIDBxscH
Rafi and Greenland (2020) https://t.co/jhGDqoW3up で、“confidence” refers to the procedure behavior, not the reported interval, seems to be lost on most researchersと、CI percentile levelは、報告された区間ではなく、区間をつくる手続き（procedure）に対してだと説明していたり。 https://t.co/HSr5HUIRb3
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
@mzloteanu "We can now define an observed P-value p as the probability of the test statistic being at least as extreme as observed if the hypothesis H targeted for testing and every assumption used to compute the P-value (...) were correct" (10.1186/s12874-020-01105-9)
RT @Lester_Domes: @learnfromerror @Abraham_RMI @trumanfrancis @vamrhein @lakens @f2harrell @stephensenn @goodmanmetrics @statsepi Sorry: pu…
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
その後にGreenland氏の論文がいくつか紹介されていたので読んでみました。 Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise Rafi and Greenland BMC Medical Research Methodology (2020) 20:244
RT @strengejacke: @Brier_Gallihugh @camjpatrick @prisonrodeo @carlislerainey @bmwiernik https://t.co/luvFvZbSwV https://t.co/7x7Xk4Xfdg h…
RT @dailyzad: @f2harrell @vandy_biostat @EdgeforScholars Further discussion here: https://t.co/DepyiqagSt https://t.co/E5gzPha7Hh
@Brier_Gallihugh @camjpatrick @prisonrodeo @carlislerainey @bmwiernik https://t.co/luvFvZbSwV https://t.co/7x7Xk4Xfdg https://t.co/WdfweoVZnx You find some of them on Twitter, too (@dailyzad or @Lester_Domes , don't know about the others)
RT @Lester_Domes: @jonathanasterne @mendel_random @Caketin_Wade @ruthkipping Define P-values first and generally, for any parameter. Then:…
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RT @PavlosMsaouel:
@drjgauthier @f2harrell @MaartenvSmeden @GSCollins @Richard_D_Riley @StatModeling 2>Warranted uncertainty is lower when selection for observation and treatment are random rather than merely unknown. Thus the method is founded on the same best-case scenario as in almost all stat methods and risks creating false certainty (overconfidence) https://t.co/Tnq4bZSoAQ
RT @genkuroki: #統計 Greenlandさん達が提案している改革の1つは、P値を データの数値 統計モデル パラメータ値の設定に関する仮説 の相性の良さ(compatibility)の指標の1つだと説明することです。 これなら相性を見る対象達の全てを気楽に…
#統計 Greenlandさん達が提案している改革の1つは、P値を データの数値 統計モデル パラメータ値の設定に関する仮説 の相性の良さ(compatibility)の指標の1つだと説明することです。 これなら相性を見る対象達の全てを気楽に疑えます。 https://t.co/1qdgTcPiui Zad Rafi & Sander Greenland 2020
RT @doc_BLocke: @ZachHopkinsMD Framing I like better: P val summarize how surprising a result would be *if there's nothing going on* https:…
@ZachHopkinsMD Framing I like better: P val summarize how surprising a result would be *if there's nothing going on* https://t.co/s778sdIzYN If too surprising to be nothing, must eval if model/exp design misspec (confounding, etc) or evidence - but it's only evidence by process of elimination
@analisereal @lakens @CourtneyP_PhD @BradSchoenfeld @ChrisSchneiRUB 5. Addenda to 1-4 above: #2 should say "S-values make clear why p=.01 and p=0.05 are far apart yet p=0.95 AND p=0.99 are not." Rafi & Greenland is free at https://t.co/Tnq4bZSWqo Those into theory may also find of interest https://t.co/MXTzWpjnqY and https://t.co/4Z2EzDgwIn
@Brier_Gallihugh https://t.co/eWNQf03vBX
@BrianCHolt It has been explained ad nauseam, including by the person who invented CIs (eg
@dsquintana E.g. https://t.co/DWsKy3pdHR
@simonhhess @Andrew___Baker @DogmaticPrior See the P-value function graph in Rafi and Greenland: https://t.co/slwpV9s0ct
@AaronBergman18 I like the approach of computing for multiple hypotheses of interest and/or interpret CIs as compatibility intervals. The latter's particularly useful for interpreting existing research: https://t.co/pzM510mnSK
@gehsbarg @hempelian @ajordannafa @_____Lightning @statwonk P values are fine. Here’s one way of thinking about them https://t.co/lFFhE7X4Ld
RT @connorbgrady: https://t.co/QrNLwkFKXm Have you used recommendations from Rafi and Greenland in published work? →"compatibility" over "…
RT @connorbgrady: https://t.co/QrNLwkFKXm Have you used recommendations from Rafi and Greenland in published work? →"compatibility" over "…
https://t.co/QrNLwkFKXm Have you used recommendations from Rafi and Greenland in published work? →"compatibility" over "significance" →"compatibility intervals" over "confidence intervals" →S-values →P-values for alternative hypotheses #RStats #Epitwitter #MedTwitter #Stats
@TAH_Sci @PaulHenryTremb1 @apsmunro The really informative way to use a CI is to just interpret it as what values of the parameter measured (relative risk, in this case) are compatible with the data. The hypothesis is irrelevant. https://t.co/1mibD1UvTy
@IsabellaGhement @mzelst @Ryan_ETyler @EikoFried @bolkerb I assume you are familiar with Greenland, Rafi, and co work? If not, I would say it addresses what you are saying https://t.co/jZUvnB39S6 https://t.co/ObT2qhiSXE
@ScepticalDoctor @MyNutritionSci https://t.co/k5Tj7ibkMV This paper from Rafi and Greenland provide an exampe.example. I'm sure I could link many others as well.
某所の信頼区間論争、CIが0を跨いだから急に意味が変わるわけではないというのはその通りだと思う。特に以下のRafiとGreenlandのいうcompatibility解釈であれば。 こういうの見てるとみんなベイズにしようぜという気持ちになってくる。 https://t.co/gCYmgbKXAf
@arnabguonc @Uromigos @DrChoueiri @myESMO @brian_rini @arihakimi @johnleppert @kcCURE @BradLeibovichMD @MVossMD @DrDavidNanus @OAlhalabiMD @DrScottHaake @katy_beckermann Not exactly, remember that (frequentist) CIs are functions of P-values. Significance is a decision-theoretic concept different than either CIs or p-values. To help unpack all these start
RT @bmwiernik: @ABindoff @JenWenzel1 @NeuroBill This paper has great discussion of more useful and accessible ways to describe statistical…
RT @Lester_Domes: @avicenna @conjugateprior @vamrhein Among them are warnings against misinterpretations in Pearson 1906 p. 183, Boring 191…
@ABindoff @JenWenzel1 @NeuroBill This paper has great discussion of more useful and accessible ways to describe statistical results https://t.co/5H9SgdOzmN
@orpanag @omaclaren @richarddmorey @jd_wilko @statsepi We talk about this issue on pg 11 here https://t.co/XkbibhpW8d https://t.co/sAMvS7xVFL
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
RT @Sakura_Med_DSci: 95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です…
95％信頼区間も話題ですね。 P値や信頼区間の解釈を変えた方が良い、という趣旨の論文を近年多く見かけます。 旧式の（？）良さを残しつつモデルとデータの適合度compatibilityという概念もしっかり理解したいですね（私も勉強中です）。 https://t.co/7TgFhk6zMD https://t.co/VVNPYhsWfp
RT @vamrhein: @marcora @rlmcelreath Sorry, I can only reply by suggesting some literature. Compatibility is an old concept (e.g., Box 1980)…
RT @vamrhein: @marcora @rlmcelreath Sorry, I can only reply by suggesting some literature. Compatibility is an old concept (e.g., Box 1980)…
@marcora @rlmcelreath Sorry, I can only reply by suggesting some literature. Compatibility is an old concept (e.g., Box 1980), also called consonance (Folks 1981) and consistency (Cox 1977). Some references from our own work: https://t.co/56aYdYbA7D https://t.co/DEyXF8KL8h https://t.co/VUeUnitrZb
RT @com_ecology: @GodsoeWilliam The example really comes from other literature; so do it
RT @com_ecology: @GodsoeWilliam The example really comes from other literature; so do it
@GodsoeWilliam The example really comes from other literature; so do it
RT @dailyzad: @Lester_Domes And another example of the distinction. It's a much weaker condition/statement, so the point estimate being the…
@Lester_Domes And another example of the distinction. It's a much weaker condition/statement, so the point estimate being the most consistent with the data isn't that strong of a statement and is not that impressive, and rarely is it the truth https://t.co/DepyiqrRK1 https://t.co/doSL7dC7Qh
RT @williamspagnola: @tcarpenter216 @Lester_Domes and @dailyzad wrote a paper on semantic tools for understanding p-values given that the t…
@tcarpenter216 @Lester_Domes and @dailyzad wrote a paper on semantic tools for understanding p-values given that the technical definition just isn’t very intuitive https://t.co/metj3SXyAf
RT @JessicaHullman: Nice discussion of ways intervals contextualize estimates. @Lester_Domes idea to reframe as high compatibility values c…
RT @JessicaHullman: Nice discussion of ways intervals contextualize estimates. @Lester_Domes idea to reframe as high compatibility values c…
Nice discussion of ways intervals contextualize estimates. @Lester_Domes idea to reframe as high compatibility values conditional on all assumptions https://t.co/Uh7vemZwNx (& other ideas to reform interpretation, w @dailyzad https://t.co/VjyGaGpX9i) should be required reading https://t.co/V9w4zdcttT
@CMastication @rlmcelreath @dylanarmbruste3 @NoahHaber Perhaps, but to be fair, this was for a very specific audience/discussion, he’s written several other papers with more accessible definitions/descriptions of P-values, here are some excerpts from the first link 1. https://t.co/DepyiqagSt 2. https://t.co/b4nrvhCqik https://t.co/lP6IgT9Rg0
@ESMDcan123 Indeed although unfortunately all statistics is this hard. Bayesian approaches may be more intuitive in many ways but come with their own caveats. One solution may be to prioritize teaching simple cognitive aids such as the s-value transformation
RT @dailyzad: @DataSciFact @JohnDCook It’s true, and there are so many other misconceptions regarding what hypotheses you can generate p va…
@DataSciFact @JohnDCook It’s true, and there are so many other misconceptions regarding what hypotheses you can generate p values for and many misconceptions of assumptions. Here’s a definition we give in our paper: https://t.co/uUDid9Iv4T https://t.co/i9FpvzV78w
@oyvlie @drjohnm P-values are if anything much closer to measures of fragility, and if the scale is the hindrance to interpretability, convert them to S-values for an intuitive scale ("more surprising than x heads or tales in a row") https://t.co/xPsN3F0pch
@NevalainenOlli @KariTikkinen @markkumyllykan2 @Laakarilehti @Laakariliitto @mediuutiset @yletiede @TampereUniMET @HelsinkiUniMed @JarnoRutanen @AleksiReito Uh, en kyllä tiedä. Oletko lukenut tämän? https://t.co/DftqpTbFD8
@ENirenberg If you replaced P-values in history (first documented use in the 1700s) with some other statistic that was as widely adopted, I think you would see just the same sort of misuse/misinterpretations. Here's an excerpt from a paper on this topic https://t.co/uUDid9Iv4T https://t.co/Q7bn2AVjps
RT @bmwiernik: @RyanPBowles This thread explains my perspective pretty well I think. And @dailyzad’s article https://t.co/sBxuC0hWtS does a…
@RyanPBowles This thread explains my perspective pretty well I think. And @dailyzad’s article https://t.co/sBxuC0hWtS does a nice job of illustrating interpreting a CI as a range of values compatible with the data, model assumptions, and sampling distribution of the estimator https://t.co/1yShSjWUVF
@omaclaren @MarkAnnuncio @bmwiernik Along with another example of what it insinuates from our BMC paper : https://t.co/2Zsyh4QtKa https://t.co/FfRfafQxYp
RT @IsabellaGhement: @stephensenn @david_colquhoun @learnfromerror @Abraham_RMI @SciReports @Lester_Domes @ken_rothman @goodmanmetrics @vam…
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
RT @Lester_Domes: @david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptiv…
@david_colquhoun @vamrhein @dailyzad @learnfromerror David, would you please be clear that our call is to retire deceptive terms like "significance" and "confidence" to describe P-values and intervals based on P-value functions (which show the compatibility of effect sizes with data), NOT to retire P-values https://t.co/Tnq4bZSoAQ
@ExerciseBiology Thanks – not more likely but more compatible. The point estimate is the value that is most compatible with the data and the model, yet it is very unlikely that a point estimate is the true population value. See https://t.co/rV5lJNty7h and https://t.co/DEyXF8tagJ
RT @Lester_Domes: @lakens For some review material see Greenland & Rafi https://t.co/8ucXcY7Pjr https://t.co/Tnq4bZANcg https://t.co/MXTzWp…
RT @Lester_Domes: @lakens For some review material see Greenland & Rafi https://t.co/8ucXcY7Pjr https://t.co/Tnq4bZANcg https://t.co/MXTzWp…
@lakens For some review material see Greenland & Rafi https://t.co/8ucXcY7Pjr https://t.co/Tnq4bZANcg https://t.co/MXTzWp1ecQ Related: Perezgonzalez. P-values as percentiles. https://t.co/yKnsRyi8qM. Vos, Holbert. Frequentist inference without repeated sampling. https://t.co/XwsIfrqYdl.
@stephensenn @david_colquhoun @learnfromerror @Abraham_RMI @SciReports @Lester_Domes @ken_rothman @goodmanmetrics @vamrhein Personally, I found this article helpful towards that goal of thoughtfulness in working with p-values: https://t.co/NJsW4ablRm
RT @kaz_yos: Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise | B…
RT @kaz_yos: Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise | B…
RT @kaz_yos: Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise | B…
Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise | BMC Medical Research Methodology | Full Text https://t.co/XQitszfKjX
RT @dailyzad: @kdpsinghlab From our paper (click img to see in full) https://t.co/h21MqyylSO https://t.co/4CCMxJscl3
@kdpsinghlab From our paper (click img to see in full) https://t.co/h21MqyylSO https://t.co/4CCMxJscl3
@f2harrell @vandy_biostat @EdgeforScholars Further discussion here: https://t.co/DepyiqagSt https://t.co/E5gzPha7Hh
RT @dailyzad: @ProfMattFox @eschisterman1 @edwardsjk @nondogmatist @Lester_Domes @LEBiddle great thread! Also see this recent paper which d…
RT @dailyzad: @ProfMattFox @eschisterman1 @edwardsjk @nondogmatist @Lester_Domes @LEBiddle great thread! Also see this recent paper which d…
@ProfMattFox @eschisterman1 @edwardsjk @nondogmatist @Lester_Domes @LEBiddle great thread! Also see this recent paper which discusses P-value functions and S-values and their functions in more depth: https://t.co/DepyiqagSt
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RT @dailyzad: @omaclaren @analisereal @kareem_carr @NoahHaber @Andrew___Baker I prefer the P-value as the percentile at which the observed…
@omaclaren @analisereal @kareem_carr @NoahHaber @Andrew___Baker I prefer the P-value as the percentile at which the observed test statistic fell in the test distribution per Fraser and Perezgonzalez, which we also mention in our paper: https://t.co/h21MqyylSO https://t.co/lv2IAB59GI
RT @wjdeardorff: "Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surpris…
RT @IsabellaGhement: @noahaskell @PhDemetri I like this intro to p-value functions: https://t.co/iKPMHhADEb. See also the recent article "…
@noahaskell @PhDemetri I like this intro to p-value functions: https://t.co/iKPMHhADEb. See also the recent article "Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise" by Zad Rafi and Sander Greenland: https://t.co/NJsW4asWIU.
RT @wjdeardorff: "Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surpris…
"Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise" (2020) - P-value, S-value, compatibility interval - https://t.co/kCLSE1lHSo https://t.co/JrSWSakILo
RT @dailyzad: What even is a P-value tho? (Click image to view in full) https://t.co/h21MqyylSO https://t.co/CoxtyZmLDC
RT @dailyzad: What even is a P-value tho? (Click image to view in full) https://t.co/h21MqyylSO https://t.co/CoxtyZmLDC
@Stfko_memero @mafsant_ @MonicaPerezEro @drfhowley @ImerConceptoz What even is a p-value tho? https://t.co/SZ0bgrx4ch https://t.co/qeg2OJOqPQ
@richarddmorey @Lester_Domes If you haven’t already seen, now here: https://t.co/h21MqyylSO
What even is a P-value tho? (Click image to view in full) https://t.co/h21MqyylSO https://t.co/CoxtyZmLDC
RT @GlobalPHObserv: Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surpr…
RT @GlobalPHObserv: Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surpr…
RT @GlobalPHObserv: Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surpr…
RT @dailyzad: Glad to see this finally up, it’s open access so anyone can read it and has been in the works for nearly two years, partly du…
Glad to see this finally up, it’s open access so anyone can read it and has been in the works for nearly two years, partly due to the amount of helpful feedback and comments we’ve received. 1/n link: https://t.co/h21MqyylSO enhanced PDF: https://t.co/1CTzHHhBgY https://t.co/Mau8GBd1jw
Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise https://t.co/ITyfqrXnp9
Semantic and cognitive tools to aid statistical science: replace confidence and significance by compatibility and surprise https://t.co/VkeiUtk6ok via @dailyzad & @Lester_Domes
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