"There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SARS‐CoV‐2, regardless of its origin, leaked from a laboratory...Such a leak can only be established by investigating the lab in question." https://t.co/bo0daDkCIO
There is no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000240).
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Several discussions reference key points from the publication, such as the assertion that it would take at least 15 years of continuous experimentation to engineer SARS-CoV-2 from its closest relatives. This use of technical language and specific timelines showcases users' attempts to convey the complexity of the topic, while the tone varies from mocking conspiracy theories to advocating for science-based interpretations. Phrases like 'no amount of published evidence will get thru to him' indicate a frustration with those who dismiss scientific consensus.
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- The hypothesis that SARS-CoV-2 originated from laboratory manipulation is challenged by the authors, who argue that it relies on flawed assumptions and does not align with genetic analysis results.
- The genetic differences between SARS-CoV-2 and its proposed ancestor viruses indicate that their divergence occurred over a much longer timeframe than what would be expected from lab modifications.
- The findings support a natural origin for SARS-CoV-2, as they are consistent with existing genetic and experimental data.
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Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin . BioEssays. e2000325. https://t.co/zqlL0mhBJk
@elonmusk Re: "My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci" Why? https://t.co/643nyCq1Y8 https://t.co/oINg8S2MOi https://t.co/xgPudubroc https://t.co/pcpXH3OVrk https://t.co/R5hFeoEv1G https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/mgMae8DwcK https://t.co/aZD180NAKm https://t.co/ywCZWDtFJv
9/T For example, it's unlikely SARS-CoV-2 came from RaTG13, given the evolutionary distance between them. They're more like distant cousins (ex: humans vs. chimpanzees). So bringing it up is a red herring https://t.co/M0scCoC1pf https://t.co/lXz09uxTlj https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/LhdKPzmOto
5/H This creates a problem for conspiracists: How can they use RaTG13 + the miners to prop up paranoia, if it's clear a lab didn't make SARS-CoV-2 from RatG13? @edwardcholmes: "SARS-CoV-2 was not derived from RaTG13." https://t.co/CqX4F6z7ge https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/LWkHehlFch
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Investigating the Origins of SARS-CoV-2: Lab Leak vs. Zoonotic Pathways
This video explores whether SARS-CoV-2 had a lab-based origin or a natural zoonotic emergence. Examining key evidence related to the lab leak hypothesis raises important questions about the virus's unique genetic…
Origins and Biological Insights of SARS-CoV-2 in Human Infections
In December 2019, pneumonia cases in Wuhan were linked to a seafood market, leading to the discovery of a new betacoronavirus, 2019nCoV. This virus is distinct from other human-infecting coronaviruses and is the seventh…
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@JamesNeilMeece @Plinz @angie_rasmussen You can't. Two good articles (not by Rasmussen) on why https://t.co/4HpafoNmZW https://t.co/nKnc2GveuR
RT @AtomsksSanakan: @weldeiry @LogosMMXX @GuyGadboisGuyG1 @VigilantFox @MartyMakary @P_J_Buckhaults Copy-choice error due to palindrome for…
@coreyum @tgof137 Reference to the FCS sounds like anomaly hunting. https://t.co/Am1qUUzEAr https://t.co/IYwGZNaZMS https://t.co/zrnitS4gmM [ https://t.co/0hcaJG9qAe https://t.co/DsPdKJ0EKe https://t.co/0HAkOCp6DK ] https://t.co/hhMrCggqLD https://t.co/DthuMv8Zgu https://t.co/5abj0VgO51 https://t.co/T6g73H3Nxl
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@Ayjchan @nytimes https://t.co/PaVWn2pPDY
@WiniAshby @DavidKlemitz @MarionKoopmans That account is trolling. https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/fw8C66zqyv https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/Wzb4RmvUvX
@rikdog47 @gadboit @blink64 https://t.co/4HpafoNmZW
@SethBurn @NateSilver538 @TheZvi He'll just willfully ignore the published evidence. https://t.co/KmkU2DE2uf https://t.co/DO3tXxtzHE https://t.co/VDnbbbWVHh https://t.co/PhQYajUiHC https://t.co/BWOc1I6DBa https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/mgMae8DwcK https://t.co/Hz9nibhLPk https://t.co/1brxky1SYL
@JohnAchterhof @past_is_future @R_H_Ebright
@jonatanpallesen @A_Nelson1818 @NateSilver538 You must be joking. https://t.co/KmkU2DE2uf https://t.co/DO3tXxtzHE https://t.co/VniK53dTEx https://t.co/VDnbbbWVHh https://t.co/PhQYajUiHC https://t.co/BWOc1I6DBa https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/mgMae8DwcK https://t.co/Hz9nibhLPk https://t.co/e8iO9xDIE2 https://t.co/CuzaEsQOdS
@Sijwill @Chris__Sage @R_H_Ebright Re: "nobody’s listening"
@Anonymousholz @adriancjr @RottenInDenmark @gorskon @zeynep @oneunderscore__ Your evidence-point on HKU viruses was also vacuous. https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/z7avhKzu9H
@golgoonza @GasolineJoy @RottenInDenmark You're misinforming. https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/s3hzCgERgc
@ChronicBabak @ijbailey @C_Kavanagh just not useful as evidence for an engineered virus. https://t.co/VhfRmz8A3t https://t.co/mcrOqnG6YV https://t.co/l2KhEY50uE
@rt7683 @Anonymousholz They're beyond help; common among the low-follower conspiracist accounts.
@stumpy2121 @past_is_future moderately technical https://t.co/4HpafoNmZW
@PaulBieniasz Chan knows this. She's trolling https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/nWq8a5mOWs https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/Irj9hg6UNP
@elks_man @allahpundit SARS-CoV2 couldn't have been created from an existing virus by serial passaging in the way he describes. It it is estimated it would take at least 15 years of continuous experiments to make it from the closest known virus https://t.co/4HpafoNmZW
RT @AtomsksSanakan: @weldeiry @LogosMMXX @GuyGadboisGuyG1 @VigilantFox @MartyMakary @P_J_Buckhaults Copy-choice error due to palindrome for…
@jason_willz1 @weldeiry Yup https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/Md7st4uqY6
@jason_willz1 @rt7683 @SwaledaleMutton @wanderer_jasnah @ianfmusgrave Ah, just saw it. Thx. Long addressed. https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW "Robert F. Garry" https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/io7XPceQ3r
@katharineknott Been explained for awhile at this point. https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/8IDs7v1op2
@ValidScience @ggronvall @lawfareblog It's spelled "furin cleavage site". https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/WdhRlutM09
@DavidWestwaterr @past_is_future Re: "firing cleavage side" It's "furin cleavage site". Try to understand what you fabricate about, if you want informed people to take you seriously. https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/mgMae8DwcK https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/NWfF410D7T
@weldeiry @LogosMMXX @GuyGadboisGuyG1 @VigilantFox @MartyMakary @P_J_Buckhaults Copy-choice error due to palindrome formation from a hairpin. There you go, you got your answer. You can now stop claiming you haven't received one. https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/mgMae8DwcK https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/XG8ImGt3uE
@Mynameismud09 @JonathanSarfat1 @TigerlillySusan @VigilantFox @BretWeinstein Already well-established that a SARS-CoV-2 ancestor can get the FCS sequence via copy-choice choice error with another coronavirus. https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/mgMae8DwcK https://t.co/XcICchPQFb https://t.co/evo6KSEAfe
@marypmadigan @JonathanSarfat1 @TigerlillySusan @NMarbletoe @toadmeister @DrJBhattacharya "(ii) level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change. Hence, SARS-CoV-2 was not derived from RaTG13" https://t.co/CqX4F6z7ge https://t.co/rkluFr1UUp https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/2hOkj8fG6m
https://t.co/vULH15aArY "In summary, the hypothesis of artificial creation of SARS-CoV-2 proposed by Segreto and Deigin is not supported by evidence. Additionally, it does not agree with a number of findings based on genetic analysis of SARS-CoV-2 and its relatives."
@elonmusk Re: "My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci" Why? https://t.co/643nyCq1Y8 https://t.co/oINg8S2MOi https://t.co/xgPudubroc https://t.co/pcpXH3OVrk https://t.co/R5hFeoEv1G https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/mgMae8DwcK https://t.co/aZD180NAKm https://t.co/ywCZWDtFJv
@weisselbergers Scientists present evidence. Others ignore it + sowed baseless distrust of scientists https://t.co/5abj0UYEQT https://t.co/VDnbbcewyP https://t.co/zrnitRM78E https://t.co/BWOc1HP2cA https://t.co/0hcaJFRhm6 https://t.co/mgMae8lUOa https://t.co/pcpXH3xk2K https://t.co/PVEgOK4eg1
@PhillyPharmaBoy @AndyMLinn @Maestermagoo @jch_of @stuartjdneil @DanielPrantner @BillyBostickson @nailbomb3 @_everythingism @SebViret @FrancescoEsp33 @TheSeeker268 @scotub @breakfast_dogs @SylviaT71323726 @franciscodeasis @Rossana38510044 @InWuchang @evolving_string @Daoyu15 @zhihuachen @ydeigin @lab_leak @MonaRahalkar @gdemaneuf He's trolling. No amount of published evidence will get thru to him, whether it's on lab leak or ivermectin. https://t.co/XcICchyfgB https://t.co/xgPudtTPZC https://t.co/zrnitRM78E https://t.co/R5hFeoW5Te https://t.co/0hcaJFRhm6 https://t.co/mgMae8lUOa https://t.co/pcpXH3xk2K
@mbalter @ydeigin More non-expert conspiracism, as on HIV origins.
@AndyMLinn Re: "But the unwillingness to impute any significance to the FCS" One more response to illustrate how disingenuous you are in your paranoid pseudoskepticism https://t.co/mM95dGdGv1 https://t.co/zrnitRM78E https://t.co/R5hFeoW5Te https://t.co/0hcaJFRhm6 https://t.co/XcICchQouJ https://t.co/WUauU65xjj
@Corp_Raider99 @suvyboy @CapitalBtd @chrismartenson Re: "I’ve heard smart people say polybasic furin cleavage site is like nothing out of nature ... but again over my head" Yes, you were in over your head. https://t.co/mM95dFW5Dt https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe https://t.co/R5hFeoEv1G https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/8eQPQc3Aob https://t.co/wLoaAmUHzO
@The4ourthBranch @davidmweissman @OptionsLance @elonmusk @ChrisJBakke
@AnagalisArvensi @FairyCalvo @flodebarre @Ayjchan Not "we would not have done it that way" but it couldn't have been engineered from a known virus. Full stop. It would take at least 15 years of continuous experiments on virus that was discovered in 2013 to create SARS-COV2 the way people are proposing https://t.co/bHt0jE4HTh
@Corp_Raider99 @jason_willz1 @alchemytoday @BenFPiercePhD So many L's being taken by non-expert lab leak conspiracists, who don't even grasp basic genetics, virology, etc.
@mynewcrap It's not similar enough to SARS that it could be engineered from it. Even starting from the closest relative it would take more than 15 years of continuous experiments to get something like SARS-COV2 https://t.co/yMMd8z1THC
@JR4_Truth @All_Knowing_Bio @aSinister @Spencerfletch0 @glinch72 @WReynolds20 @variegated2 @mentalmal1 @PaprikaLady @BernaB_2013 @automatrix66_KC @MicWelshman @Veritatem2021 @GordonDHG_clim8 @B_Bolshevik100 @Climate_Takes @ejwwest @Roark_Architect @ClimateSkeptic4 @Robert76907841 @richmclean24 @samphireisland @BrknMan @Kenneth72712993 @LouisCy72344053 @LunusOfGayTakes @jpgcrowley @Lo_VVriter @BJChippindale @JohnDublin10 @TomPlesier @MikeDel21893959 @RoyPentland @OG_Advisors @InaneDragon @AnsgarTOdinson @roger_clague @obannan @MartinJBern @odyssey_bow @GlennCarr6 @Jaisans @BointonGiles @JamesHT @Robertchef77 @aldavidson99 @FlowerandFist @BubbasRanch @SteveJenks63 No wonder you'd fall for that conspiracism when you've fallen for conspiracism (that's popular among right-wing people) on other topics like hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, vaccines, AGW, etc. You're so gullible + ideological.
@alchemytoday @triplebankshot @PatrickSSte @WashburneAlex And on the "ultra-rare CGG-CGG codon pair" [
@PeacockFlu @pickettjessica @SolidEvidence @stgoldst So template switching? https://t.co/qaBLab8o4s https://t.co/UgNGjP3b9Y https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/SgXSkEA6dI
@SolidEvidence @stuartjdneil Anyway, so fair to say this non-FCS insertion is likely from template switching? https://t.co/2iX6WhyJys https://t.co/qaBLab8o4s https://t.co/vNFtIpthyt https://t.co/68zQVNjR1D https://t.co/sU1Xtiu1UG https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe https://t.co/oIw9DCV1hv
@TheEthanIverson @ch_zimmer @alchemytoday @zhihuachen @VBruttel @R_H_Ebright @jbkinney @Ayjchan @gtuckerkellogg @andrewtanyongyi @Samuel_Gregson @WashburneAlex @acritschristoph @tony_vandongen Published evidence shows what it shows, regardless of the whining of the lab leak crowd. https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/XcICchPQFb https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/w7PMjSdRhg ] https://t.co/sU1Xtiu1UG https://t.co/cxxCughhZo
@RobTownley6 @jbkinney @andrewtanyongyi @Samuel_Gregson @WashburneAlex @acritschristoph Everyone else seems to get it just fine.
@alchemytoday @RobTownley6 @gtuckerkellogg @Ayjchan @jbkinney @andrewtanyongyi @Samuel_Gregson @WashburneAlex @acritschristoph @TheEthanIverson How many times must it be explained to him? It's like he hasn't read any of the pertinent literature, + so doesn't realize what it's called there. https://t.co/wzoMCNCRC3 https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/Oixu79TQVS https://t.co/Cx8VcfrRJX
@gtuckerkellogg @RobTownley6 @alchemytoday @Ayjchan @jbkinney @andrewtanyongyi @Samuel_Gregson @WashburneAlex @acritschristoph It's been explained to him multiple times.
@TheEthanIverson @RobTownley6 @jbkinney @andrewtanyongyi @Samuel_Gregson @WashburneAlex @acritschristoph Difficult to get him to understand basic points he's committed to not accepting, even after it's explained to him.
@rusant10 @TonyMerriman2 @K_G_Andersen @jbkinney @WashburneAlex Evidence for copy-choice error is published. Irrelevant whether paranoid non-experts are convinced. https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/0HAkOCoyOc ] https://t.co/hhMrCgfSW5 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/YiO7mwWlKE
@mentju4 @jbkinney You're still not addressing the evidence on template switching / copy-choice error related to FCS. https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe [ https://t.co/XcICchPQFb https://t.co/DsPdKJ06UG https://t.co/w7PMjSdRhg ] https://t.co/sU1Xtiu1UG https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/svzndAfKTB
@mentju4 @jbkinney Again: You still haven't addressed any of the published evidence supporting palindrome-based template switching / copy-choice error. https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe https://t.co/zLfhrwg0Uu https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/FUBqneu959 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/5abj0Vggft https://t.co/5iiOLOYHvN
@sense_strand @jaredpretender @R_H_Ebright @Greg21143362 Debunked bioessay from non-experts who acted like SARS-CoV-2 could have been made from RaTG13, but then pretended they didn't say that when called on it. https://t.co/VJmPeJJ0GR https://t.co/00XFHYVt6g https://t.co/0WAktIl0xD https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/m5PFafCsAP
@Florin_Uncovers @Graybea71861266 @_everythingism @nicolascgrey @ETVPod @stuartjdneil @KingsCollegeLon @KCLalumni @GurusPod So still waiting on that peer-reviewed published evidence from virologists supporting: "Real virologists and scientist, unlike you, believe the FCS is highly unlikely to have come from evolution" https://t.co/nzeRlbz0ww https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/ug40yPNnHl
@InWuchang @_everythingism @Graybea71861266 @FrancescoEsp33 @stuartjdneil @past_is_future Looks like you're being a disingenuous as ever. https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/igWa6Cx5hS
@R_H_Ebright @past_is_future @stuartjdneil "(ii) level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change. Hence, SARS-CoV-2 was not derived from RaTG13" https://t.co/lmJZBdS5sP https://t.co/rkluFr1UUp https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/AFA5ZZUpVA
@BobApposite @AngloScot2 @R_H_Ebright @stuartjdneil @STWorg @past_is_future Re: "I understand the basic concept." Nope. Re: "I also understand recent studies" Yet you never cite the literature + need basic biology explained to you. https://t.co/zLfhrwg0Uu https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/FUBqneu959 https://t.co/DthuMv8rqW https://t.co/zrnitS3Ixe
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@jaredpretender @nailbomb3 @Ayjchan @mattwridley @zeynep Experts went through evidence on the non-anthropogenic origin of SARS-CoV-2, as they did on HIV. Non-expert conspiracists being unpersuaded is irrelevant. https://t.co/qaBLab8o4s https://t.co/hHlWRHYE0B https://t.co/B8hMI9yapB https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/FlxjGFE67F
@TheMoonOfficia2 @RandPaul OK< sorry it took a little longer. This is a retort to the scientific paper you cited. "There is no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000240)" https://t.co/n1Yu0u0Wv8 There is more I will post soon.
@muellmannus @LumLotus *Laughs in published lit* 1. https://t.co/T7eoNkvmib 2. https://t.co/uGl0hLihLC 3. https://t.co/HU7KqyNjE6 4. https://t.co/mpcVZNSGiP 5. https://t.co/uVGXBjjQXv I could keep going, but these reviews should suffice to establish consensus in the lit.
@sicr1090 @PeterHotez https://t.co/EXUbfyqU8d
@CentristXtreme Paranoid conspiracy theorist continues rambling about a viral pathogen's origin, a topic they have no genuine interest in understanding nor grasp even the basics of. Priceless. https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/vlKdn65qHL
@Chris__Sage I'll leave u to continue your trolling, @Chris__Sage, like those ranting on HIV coming from a lab. Science moved past u conspiracists. https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/j0ieRly9YL https://t.co/B8hMI9yapB https://t.co/lt4KOdqSns https://t.co/KMUfylyTSk https://t.co/ZbXXWLwa7K https://t.co/owBGG4aTGw
@GidMK @ydeigin Re: "previous theory was for a specific virus being the most likely progenitor" @ydeigin insinuated that SARS-CoV-2 came from RaTG13. But when called on it, he feigns shock that anyone would say he said it https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/ym9976KgfM https://t.co/4QqiUO5tjT https://t.co/cDY8OKoTjJ
@ydeigin @GidMK No wonder you manage to fool paranoid conspiracists who are biologically illiterate, but not anyone who actually understands biology. Again, by your asinine reasoning, Toxo infections don't happen, and guano/feces don't exist. https://t.co/hyQ6MhohOC https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/d2K0yilDrq
@ydeigin @GidMK No wonder so few people in the scientific community take you seriously on this topic. You'll just peddle lab leak conspiracism no matter what, in your evidence-immune denialism and frequent screw-ups. https://t.co/2pejkWN2fR https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/qzB7YnPOqO
@grizwald87 @Iron_Man_Actual 1. https://t.co/uGl0hLihLC 2. https://t.co/mpcVZNSGiP 3. https://t.co/uVGXBjjQXv
SARS https://t.co/HhyVD8ievL
@ydeigin Dear Yuri, do you have a (maybe pre-print yet?) reply to: https://t.co/h4mDASDS1l
@CrackerNum @bigodedourado @EmbaixadaChina https://t.co/O8gcvHUuJE
The genetic structure of SARS‐CoV‐2 is consistent with both natural or laboratory origin: Response to Tyshkovskiy and Panchin (10.1002/bies.202000325) https://t.co/Ie9dsxyLWd
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 15/Z DRASTIC conspiracy theorists like @ydeigin + @Rossana38510044 falsely claim copy-choice error won't cause out-of-…
RT @AtomsksSanakan: @stuartjdneil @Rossana38510044 Re: "@Rossana38510044 a bit old, but I'm not sure you've addressed thise WRT" She addre…
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 8/Y Alexander Panchin (@Scinquisitor) + Alexander Tyshkovskiy rebutted Segreto + Deigin's insinuation: https://t.co/0…
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 5/H This creates a problem for conspiracists: How can they use RaTG13 + the miners to prop up paranoia, if it's clear…
RT @AtomsksSanakan: @AlainPannetier @Daoyu15 @tehknein @uvachemistry @TheSeeker268 @franciscodeasis @past_is_future @stuartjdneil @_everyth…
@stuartjdneil @Rossana38510044 Re: "@Rossana38510044 a bit old, but I'm not sure you've addressed thise WRT" She addressed it by making stuff up. https://t.co/NpufXrOdH5 https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/TumMVxth1L
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
@AlainPannetier @Daoyu15 @tehknein @uvachemistry @TheSeeker268 @franciscodeasis @past_is_future @stuartjdneil @_everythingism @krylormaximus @Maestermagoo @FrancescoEsp33 @breakfast_dogs @SylviaT71323726 @Rossana38510044 @InWuchang @evolving_string @zhihuachen @ydeigin @lab_leak @MonaRahalkar Let me know when you finally learn to be honest, for once in your life. https://t.co/BeT1AbYsiw https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/hAYdrgUhyR
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 5/H This creates a problem for conspiracists: How can they use RaTG13 + the miners to prop up paranoia, if it's clear…
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
8/Y Alexander Panchin (@Scinquisitor) + Alexander Tyshkovskiy rebutted Segreto + Deigin's insinuation: https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/ym9976KgfM Segreto + Deigin's responded by feigning shock that anyone would suggest they made that claim.
5/H This creates a problem for conspiracists: How can they use RaTG13 + the miners to prop up paranoia, if it's clear a lab didn't make SARS-CoV-2 from RatG13? @edwardcholmes: "SARS-CoV-2 was not derived from RaTG13." https://t.co/CqX4F6z7ge https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/LWkHehlFch
@jfjulien @TheSeeker268 @past_is_future @stuartjdneil @_everythingism @krylormaximus @Maestermagoo @FrancescoEsp33 @breakfast_dogs @SylviaT71323726 @franciscodeasis @Rossana38510044 @InWuchang @evolving_string @Daoyu15 @zhihuachen @ydeigin @lab_leak @MonaRahalkar So @TheSeeker268 is just making stuff up again, as usual. https://t.co/kSQ5XBMC0O https://t.co/nZoBxQ0cKz @edwardcholmes: "SARS-CoV-2 was not derived from RaTG13." https://t.co/lmJZBdS5sP https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/lSaSeb8zYR
@past_is_future @TheSeeker268 @stuartjdneil @_everythingism @krylormaximus @Maestermagoo @FrancescoEsp33 @breakfast_dogs @SylviaT71323726 @franciscodeasis @Rossana38510044 @InWuchang @evolving_string @Daoyu15 @zhihuachen @ydeigin @lab_leak @MonaRahalkar Oh, this is just priceless. Panchin + Tyshkovskiy absolutely eviscerated their position on this, to the point they're now pretending they never said it. https://t.co/0hcaJG8SKG https://t.co/gOEG9sdD14
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 9/T For example, it's unlikely SARS-CoV-2 came from RaTG13, given the evolutionary distance between them. They're more…
9/T For example, it's unlikely SARS-CoV-2 came from RaTG13, given the evolutionary distance between them. They're more like distant cousins (ex: humans vs. chimpanzees). So bringing it up is a red herring https://t.co/M0scCoC1pf https://t.co/lXz09uxTlj https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/LhdKPzmOto
@lab_leak @stuartjdneil So, @lab_leak, you persistent liar and conspiracy theorist: Do you admit that subsequent amino acids are unaffected, even if the source of the insertion was out-of-frame? https://t.co/g3hJGqedZR https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/6RSWIOdnPj
@PoernomoDanny @lab_leak @ydeigin @Rossana38510044 Re: "It would be interesting to see another episode of this lol" It would be interesting if Deigin actually had some integrity and biological literacy. But he doesn't need either to fool folks like you. https://t.co/NpufXrOdH5 https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/ZtlA5AU3LZ
@lab_leak @ydeigin @Rossana38510044 Still no answer to the query Again: Do you admit that subsequent amino acids are unaffected, even if the source of the insertion was out-of-frame? I know dishonest conspiracists like you like to move the goalposts without acknowledging what you're shown https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/NpJTIUSfAF
@lab_leak @ydeigin @Rossana38510044 You're confusing whether the insertions were out-of-frame in the source of the insertion, vs. whether they're out-of-frame in their inserted location. Same distortion your fellow conspiracy theorists Segreto + Deigin did. https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/awcqg0hb9c
@past_is_future Have you read this and the response? https://t.co/pPkTsXRwlo
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 15/Z DRASTIC conspiracy theorists like @ydeigin + @Rossana38510044 falsely claim copy-choice error won't cause out-of-…
15/Z DRASTIC conspiracy theorists like @ydeigin + @Rossana38510044 falsely claim copy-choice error won't cause out-of-frame changes in coronaviruses, using a source that shows no such thing. https://t.co/xPqFvI3Y0t https://t.co/NCHBSVwiIo https://t.co/R5lXfVWeLS https://t.co/85cmh1icpW
RT @CyHusain: There is no evidence of #SARSCoV2 laboratory origin #LabLeakTheory : Response to Segreto and Deigin (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000…
There is no evidence of #SARSCoV2 laboratory origin #LabLeakTheory : Response to Segreto and Deigin (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000240) https://t.co/PWFvpNbXDB
@BrentCa24718741 @TheEliKlein @sandn6163 @coneil811 @gorskon @jonstewart @colbertlateshow The RBD of pangolin coronavirus MP789 could not have been used for the creation of SARS-CoV-2 either. Segreto and Deigin state that “the MP789 PANGOLIN strain isolated from Guangdong (GD) PANGOLINS has an almost identical RBD to that of SARS-CoV-2″ https://t.co/S5huKk7HFG
@Dr_Pilgrim @CdallDall aqui tienes el articulo completo: https://t.co/G6DCPbJmUZ
There are no valid points of criticism in Tyshkovskiy and Panchin's response (10.1002/bies.202000325) to our paper "The genetic structure of SARS-CoV-2 does not rule out a laboratory origin" (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000240) https://t.co/UH3Mj3gxFi
@Passportlifesty @Yungtaepuna @jonathanchait Tyshkovskiy A, Panchin AY. There is no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000240). Bioessays. 2021 May;43(5):e2000325. doi: 10.1002/bies.202000325. Epub 2021 Mar 9. PMID: 33751609.
@alopeki Η σύμπτωση sars και Wuhan κινεί βάσιμες υποψίες, αλλά ένδειξεις για συνθετικό ιο είναι ασθενείς. Ένα σενάριο θα μπορουσε να είναι φυσικός ιός που διαδόθηκε από εργαστηριο πριν την επεξεργασία. Δες και αυτό: https://t.co/WJyI6zDlEG
Ссылка: https://t.co/5lFNroIGVn
There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000240) - Tyshkovskiy - 2021 - BioEssays - Wiley Online Library https://t.co/mOlLIy6wQ7
@HL3133 @AGoldsmithEsq @K_G_Andersen lol... no. Your "academic studies" have been debunked. https://t.co/nMSdzBs6oE You have nothing left but fringe quacks and disgraced science journalists
@TeePee6000 @funder https://t.co/Mgv7WQTPtV This link is from the link in your tweet.
@MegaMogwai This issue is discussed in this paper, which answers another with similar claims that the article you are talking about. Check it out. https://t.co/uZTMXjXmOm
@Rossana38510044 @rrgum304 @DaveRayTaylor You’ve also failed to contend with any of the serious evidence. Technically it could be engineered, it’s just incredibly unlikely given every analysis heretofore (which you didn’t perform). You also never responded to a paper formally rebutting yours: https://t.co/qiq86AFox8
There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (DOI: 10.1002/bies.202000240) https://t.co/m4CbEZxIHy
RT @MGClaros: No hay ningún dato que respalde el rigen artifical del SARS-CoV-2 cuando se compara con otros coronavirus. No se puede afirma…
No hay ningún dato que respalde el rigen artifical del SARS-CoV-2 cuando se compara con otros coronavirus. No se puede afirmar que surja como quimera artificial de RaTG13 y MP789, como defienden algunos, ni necesita recombinaciones extrañas. https://t.co/PGm5yJeNu3
@Rossana38510044 @ydeigin @VorontsovIE @Scinquisitor True, I don't have *own* arguments here (sorry, can't allow a conspiracy hobby in 2020). But I read @Scinquisitor's paper, a response to you, and it's *more than* convincing Tyshkovskiy, A., & Panchin, A. Y. (n.d.). BioEssays, 2000325. https://t.co/K9YopBj1iq
New article: There is no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (https://t.co/H24mHJ18PF) https://t.co/PjvzvvYXG5 #coronavirus #COVID19 #2019ncov https://t.co/pKeaBIczYF
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
RT @mattwridley: "There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SA…
"There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin" "We wish to make explicit that our comment is not about whether SARS‐CoV‐2, regardless of its origin, leaked from a laboratory...Such a leak can only be established by investigating the lab in question." https://t.co/bo0daDkCIO
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
RT @tonygill3: There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (https://t.co/s4Od5tAB3q) https://t.co/…
There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (https://t.co/s4Od5tAB3q) https://t.co/qDKUI8nh3l
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
RT @Scinquisitor: Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response…
Our article is out! Tyshkovskiy, A., Panchin, AY. (2021). There is no evidence of SARS‐CoV‐2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin . BioEssays. e2000325. https://t.co/zqlL0mhBJk