Overall, the discussions reflect a positive reception, with posts praising the paper as a logical and scientifically grounded explanation to the Fermi paradox, exemplified by comments like 'this study offers a plausible solution' and references to environmental sustainability. The tone varies from curiosity to agreement, with some sharing related thoughts on Earth's ecological crises, demonstrating moderate engagement and interest.
AgreementModerate agreement
Most discussions agree that the paper offers a plausible explanation for the Fermi paradox, emphasizing the concept of natural limits to growth and civilization burnout.
InterestHigh interest
The topic sparks high interest, with many posts highlighting its relevance to understanding extraterrestrial life and civilization sustainability.
EngagementModerate engagement
Posts frequently reference the core ideas of the paper, its implications, and relate it to broader debates on Earth's future, showing moderate to deep engagement.
ImpactModerate impact
While some comments suggest it could reshape perspectives on extraterrestrial life and sustainability, overall impact remains speculative, hence a moderate score.
Abstract in brief
This article explores how the growth and energy use of cities and planetary civilizations tend to accelerate towards catastrophic singularities, but that these crises can be averted through innovation or resetting systems.
It suggests that when a civilization becomes a globally connected “city,” it faces an inevitable crisis called asymptotic burnout, occurring when its self-destructive growth outpaces its ability to innovate or adapt.
The proposed solution is that civilizations might recognize this impending crisis and intentionally shift focus from relentless expansion to maintaining long-term balance and stability (homeostasis), potentially explaining the Fermi paradox by suggesting advanced civilizations could become less detectable as they prioritize sustainability over expansion.]
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/uKE7Qaiyfx
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Álex Riveiro
@alex_riveiro · X
¡Este es el contenido del fin de semana!
En el podcast:
Astrobitácora - 3x20 - El final de InSight y la duración de las misiones espaciales
https://t.co/Een4e7uPL5
En YouTube: ¿Por qué no hemos encontrado otras civilizaciones?
https://t.co/mLnJJBOdOz
#astronomia #ciencia
May 23, 2022 · 27 likes · 7 shares · 313,721 followersView post →
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Quinn (she/they) Ⓐ
@robynsun_love · X
@ThenAlexSaid1 @katewillett Infinite growth is the logic of cancer.
With family planning, economic degrowth, transition to renewables, wealth redistribution to the Global South, & 75 GJ of energy use per capita, humanity could thrive on Earth w/ a ~4 billion population for millennia
https://t.co/UZltGyCYMR
Mar 17, 2025 · 15 likes · 1 share · 1,308 followersView post →
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John Smart
@johnmsmart · X
Xlnt paper by @miquai (Carnegie) and Stuart Bartlett (Caltech) on how cities grow.
https://t.co/8JyKp3voDE
Just One Problem: They assume a coming "No-Growth Transition"(they're thinking of physical growth/Consumer Capitalism). Reality is that inner space growth (densification &
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Dr. Graham Lau
@cosmobiologist · X
@minwadhwa @DrSueSchneider @miquai In "Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?", they explore the growth of a planetary civilization toward a point of asymptotic burnout, where the growth itself becomes limiting.
https://t.co/eAip0i2gni
This video explores how civilizations might degrade over time through asymptotic burnout, leading to reduced detectability. It examines how shifting focus from expansion to balance and sustainability could explain the…
Scientists propose that civilizations' growth leads to crises they may avoid through systemic reset or sustainability focus, possibly explaining why we haven't been contacted or visited by extraterrestrials.
Scientists present hypotheses suggesting that advanced civilizations may prioritize sustainability and stability, potentially becoming less detectable and explaining the Fermi paradox. The video explores how crises can…
Researchers propose that advanced civilizations may avoid detectable expansion by focusing on sustainability and stability, offering a new perspective on the Fermi paradox and extraterrestrial life detection.
Researchers from Carnegie and Caltech propose that superlinear scaling leads to a civilization singularity, potentially explaining why extraterrestrial civilizations are not observable, as they may focus on…
This video discusses how civilizations may avoid catastrophic growth through innovation and system resets, potentially explaining why advanced extraterrestrial life hasn't been detected, aligning with recent scientific…
The universe is vast with billions of stars and planets, yet we see no signs of alien life. This video explores how civilizations may self-regulate growth to avoid catastrophic burnout, potentially explaining their…
Michael L. Wong, Stuart Bartlett; Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?. J R Soc Interface 1 May 2022; 19 (190): 20220029. https://t.co/CbVivD8HlR
@danfaggella In other words, no superintelligent singleton, no orthogonality, and no inhuman instramentalism. There may or may not be limitless potentia, depends on whether or not there's an asymptotic hard limit https://t.co/zTJsg6DyXp tho Fermi paradox tends to favour Wong & Bartlett 2/2
I wouldn't call it "lazy" but a recognition that the assumption that all life complex naturally would strive to unbounded expansion is a product of a specific sociopolitical ideology. I recommend the paper "Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?"
@ShiningScience Instead of fairy tale SciFi speculation here an actual proper scientific paper giving a logical solution to the fermi paradox. Asymptotic Burnout & Homeostatic Awakening by Wong & Bartlett (2022)
https://t.co/zeTmtHsVL8
@pmddomingos Distracting humanity from the real issue & that is AIs terrible energy efficiency & enormous consumption of fresh water. AI will only further accelerate humanity's efforts to make our planet uninhabitable for any higher lifeform (& AI) ASAP (-:
https://t.co/zeTmtHsVL8
@danfaggella I guess you could be the most perfect example of the landlubber's inevitable tendency to become totally disconnected from reality!
https://t.co/lwT3eyjFPe
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening? https://t.co/dlRd80hvcw
@astro_jaz Wasting even more time, energy and natural resources looking outward instead of deciding that it's really time to start looking inward?
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA
@fjjariego Paper guapo al respecto
https://t.co/nOsR7Bkl1c
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M. Alan Kazlev
@akazlev · X
This absolutely fascinates me. The authors argue there is a hard limit to technological ascension, which explains the fermi paradox. It may be that gigantism-based futurism derives from the Western fallacy of infinite progress. https://t.co/zTJsg6DyXp
May 31, 2025 · 1 like · 2,640 followersView post →
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Gatticus
@gatticusFPV · X
@girldrawsghosts But at least we have a very plausible solution to the Fermi paradox. ;-) Its either this or the fact chlorophyll is very unlikely to evolve independently that many times even out to the distance of the light horizon.
https://t.co/oGnWK3jvfP
@konstructivizm One wonders if on any of the planets going around those suns their might also be species intend on making their home planet uninhabitable for higher lifeforms ASAP...
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/s7ooGugP7V
@Naifalbidh I believe we are at the beginning of a new approach to understanding the rise or fall of a civilization that will be decoupled from the birth rate.I find this article very interesting for thinking about this topic. https://t.co/mflZqgkfrt
was watching an interesting video by Dr Fatima Abdurrahman, an astrophysicist, about aliens and the fermi paradox, one interesting point brought up was surrounding a research paper titled "Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?" https://t.co/xaqnpHEkdm
RT @johnmsmart: Xlnt paper by @miquai (Carnegie) and Stuart Bartlett (Caltech) on how cities grow.
https://t.co/8JyKp3voDE
Just One Proble…
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Quinn (she/they) Ⓐ
@robynsun_love · X
@ThenAlexSaid1 @katewillett Infinite growth is the logic of cancer.
With family planning, economic degrowth, transition to renewables, wealth redistribution to the Global South, & 75 GJ of energy use per capita, humanity could thrive on Earth w/ a ~4 billion population for millennia
https://t.co/UZltGyCYMR
Mar 17, 2025 · 15 likes · 1 share · 1,308 followersView post →
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Wolf Maiden
@catnipsniffer0 · X
@xriskology I just hope these idiots live long enough to see the burout/collapse part that will inevitably happen in a not very distant future.
https://t.co/g1EJU8XUPD
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Blacksun1999
@Blacksun19991 · X
RT @johnmsmart: Xlnt paper by @miquai (Carnegie) and Stuart Bartlett (Caltech) on how cities grow.
https://t.co/8JyKp3voDE
Just One Proble…
Xlnt paper by @miquai (Carnegie) and Stuart Bartlett (Caltech) on how cities grow.
https://t.co/8JyKp3voDE
Just One Problem: They assume a coming "No-Growth Transition"(they're thinking of physical growth/Consumer Capitalism). Reality is that inner space growth (densification &
Feb 5, 2025 · 7 likes · 2 shares · 5,674 followersView post →
@skdh Somehow one can speak of "convergence" of intelligent alien life similar to us.
In addition thr Fermi Paradox must also be resolved:
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? https://t.co/UtbXlBmDht
Will we ever know?
On the problem of the ever growing demand for energy as our society advances. Will ai lead us to asymptotic burnout or homeoestatic awakening? https://t.co/kl9SzUDl4f
@mikusingularity …you don’t think our focus should be healing our own planet before we move to others?
Infinite outward growth is the logic of cancer.
Economic degrowth is rooted neither in Malthusian eugenics nor Luddite primitivism, but in long-term sustainability.
https://t.co/UZltGyCqXj
@JeffAndDonkeys Earth will become the only religion sooner or later...
-Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/QhiW0b87O4
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Jon Gazta
@NorthSeaBaby · X
@bethsawin Freedom, liberty, independence, etc, etc, are all illusions. We are simply all together trapped on prison Earth...
https://t.co/zeTmtHsVL8 https://t.co/u6hiKAlJjh
@newscientist Evidently, to exponentially accelerate evolution by burning fossil fuels deposits from previous mass extinctions.
-The Fermi paradox solved.
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA
@EliotJacobson Oh well, a least our asymptotic burnout solves the Fermi paradox but too late for a homeostatic awakening now...
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA
@Plinz Never believe anyone self-delusional to the extent that they believe there can exist such a thing as Artificial Intelligence in this universe!
-Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/t9lS2Q8o0K
@DavidUllrich202 Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/PbfNoRhf5t
@DavidUllrich202 Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
Either way, we are never going to meet our neighbors.
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/RnjtO3bMYC
Excellent article that I recommend reading:
Productivity and energy, singularities and resets to avoid the collapse of a civilization.
#AsymptoticBO #dataoma
https://t.co/W030QVpfKX https://t.co/h9k9vYRbZ2
Mar 6, 2024 · 247 shares · 745 followersView post →
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Justyna Kudlawiec
@farastas · X
https://t.co/MPvCj8RHma
How is the Fermi Paradox solely the result of instant culture:
☆Rapid Evolution-the change of ideas occurs more rapidly than we can adapt to them,emphasising the quickness of ideas,norms,&values over the establishment of long-lasting connections(...).
Researchers think that alien civililzations don't make contact with us because they have achieved communism... I mean... homeostatic awakening @ConceptualJames
https://t.co/QU5plat7uM
@ChristianM_28 Considering the current state of affairs on planet Earth the research paper linked below gives an explanation why we will never find out (-:
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA
@MarkTrewick1 I am trying to view it as a "natural" thing now. We wouldn't have evolved without the extinction event that wiped out the dinosaurs & by wiping ourselves out ASAP we're giving Earth a chance to evolve an actual intelligent species...
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA
RT @EconMcCausland: Fermi Paradox: Degrading Civilizations https://t.co/fzqamK4DbQ via @YouTube — No joke, if you have problems sleeping, t…
May 15, 2023 · 1 share · 6,755 followersView post →
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Hoa Paul Duong
@EconMcCausland · X
Fermi Paradox: Degrading Civilizations https://t.co/fzqamK4DbQ via @YouTube — No joke, if you have problems sleeping, this works for me.
May 13, 2023 · 1 share · 6,755 followersView post →
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Jon Gazta
@NorthSeaBaby · X
@KetanJ0 Yup...
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/iu3f5ogX5s
@cotupacs Haha, just fore-warnings of much worse events in the pipeline caused by 8 billion deluded Homo Sapiens competing to make Earth uninhabitable ASAP (-:
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/f97XodeetP
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/00gjB6Q36P
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Jon Gazta
@NorthSeaBaby · X
@ProfAbelMendez ChatGPT hasn´t read this research paper yet I guess?!
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
https://t.co/zeTmtHsnVA https://t.co/zztGAB32th
@konstructivizm @vielbein See also:
"Why have aliens never visited Earth? Scientists have a disturbing answer":
https://t.co/GMTazZvqY2
"Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?"
https://t.co/UtbXlBm5rV
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Just Greg
@MerogeneticFB · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/h4D6VMcfNj
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McGill Interstellar Flight Research Group
@McGill_AdAstra · X
RT @nyrath: Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interfac…
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Winchell Chung⚛
@nyrath · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/uKE7Qaiyfx
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chorpharn
@chorpharn · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/sk6dS8qtRK
@minwadhwa @DrSueSchneider @miquai In "Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?", they explore the growth of a planetary civilization toward a point of asymptotic burnout, where the growth itself becomes limiting.
https://t.co/eAip0i2gni
RT @E_FritzM: Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interf…
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Kevin Goheen
@Mrkalman · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/dp6zPP5dma
RT @alex_riveiro: ¡Este es el contenido del fin de semana!
En el podcast:
Astrobitácora - 3x20 - El final de InSight y la duración de las m…
May 23, 2022 · 7 shares · 2,170 followersView post →
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Álex Riveiro
@alex_riveiro · X
¡Este es el contenido del fin de semana!
En el podcast:
Astrobitácora - 3x20 - El final de InSight y la duración de las misiones espaciales
https://t.co/Een4e7uPL5
En YouTube: ¿Por qué no hemos encontrado otras civilizaciones?
https://t.co/mLnJJBOdOz
#astronomia #ciencia
May 23, 2022 · 27 likes · 7 shares · 313,721 followersView post →
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E Fritz
@E_FritzM · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/WnVS6KuXPF
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Jona C.
@elfamosisimoJON · X
¿Por qué no hemos encontrado vida inteligente lejos de la Tierra?
https://t.co/TdJ3LPn9F4
May 22, 2022 · 3 likes · 4,970 followersView post →
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Isabel de la Peña
@isabelpc_62 · X
Recomendado el nuevo video de Álex Riveiro https://t.co/38slgSBPrY
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/Dwu2OxDtwW
If you question that, too, check out this recent paper “Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?”, by @miquai and Stuart Bartlett: https://t.co/v66zalP7tF
May 19, 2022 · 2 likes · 10,671 followersView post →
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Andrew Ducker
@andrewducker · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? https://t.co/v476tf5SLQ
May 18, 2022 · 2 likes · 1,301 followersView post →
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kazz x69x
@kazzx · X
“Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?” (1 user) https://t.co/YACBHRZiML
"Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?"
by Michael L. Wong and Stuart Bartlett
https://t.co/S4CvsLMps1
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JeanSeb
@JeanSeb · X
J'ai pas encore tout lu, mais pour qui s'intéresse au paradoxe de Fermi, aux civilisations intergalactiques, à l'expansion de la vie...
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society https://t.co/l1TWgEPXV1 https://t.co/2ksxTuePhY
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Benjamin P Taylor (he/him)
@antlerboy · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Wong and Bartlett (2022) https://t.co/cEDvOoLUNK
Shortest summary of the premise in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series to date: https://t.co/1JnykYGk7U #collapseofcivilizations #homeostasis #superlinearity #fermiparadox
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
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Jonathan Knight
@jondknight · X
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/sBE6PZQayR
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/iprQ6eBNyr
fermi's paradox is based on a dumb nerd premise: that growth is unlimited. instead, all things have limits, starting off with the dumb nerd's imagination. I agree with this take: the reason aliens aren't everywhere is because the natural world has limits.
https://t.co/zoWmdMfpO9
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox? | Journal of The Royal Society Interface.
#fermiparadox https://t.co/fzZSqabJzd
Interesting article exploring one solution to the Fermi Paradox relating to the idea of environmental and energetic sustainability @OnChainMonkey @Goodthings
Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?https://t.co/KKIrdR8pLM
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