The effect of pravastatin on coronary events after myocardial infarction in patients with average cholesterol levels. Cholesterol and Recurrent Events Trial investigators.
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Abstract in brief
The study found that taking pravastatin significantly reduced the risk of serious heart problems like heart attacks and fatal coronary events in patients who had previously suffered a myocardial infarction, even if their cholesterol levels were average.
Patients on pravastatin needed fewer coronary surgeries and angioplasties, and experienced a notable decrease in strokes, although there was no significant difference in overall or non-cardiac death rates between the groups.
The benefits of pravastatin were more pronounced in women and in patients with higher initial LDL ("bad") cholesterol levels, indicating that cholesterol-lowering therapy is helpful for many with average cholesterol who have coronary disease.
Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics of nutrition science and cardiovascular research for anyone wanting a primer
what we know and how we know it
part I released today:
https://t.co/UwSOXTXtC7
Dec 14, 2020 · 39 likes · 6 shares · 28,160 followersView post →
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Motif
@TraderMotif · X
Gil is one of the best. Ignore the carnivore headline and listen to this short 30 min video. It’s brilliant and you’ll understand why everyone is confused. https://t.co/jNMxdAeYM7
@a_davemiller @kevinnbass @dranthonygustin That that guy thinks all plant food is toxic (despite evidence pointing to the opposite). If you want a debunk of his claims (I watch these for fun lol) by an expert there's this:
https://t.co/TWzaOgT0IU
Mar 26, 2022 · 7 likes · 1,004 followersView post →
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Karim Samra
@KarimSamraAR · X
@soypreme @ShortnBluntTho I’m just wondering how long until the polyps, colon cancer, atherosclerosis, brain degenerative diseases, hypertension and/or diabetes start to creep up
The new deadly fad diet thrives on the fact that people love to hear good things about their bad habits https://t.co/zDPcMwzRoM
Jan 2, 2024 · 5 likes · 1 share · 145 followersView post →
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Henri Mourant
@henri_mourant · X
@itsmetheHBIC Btw this is a pretty good debunk of his Joe Rogan appearance lol
https://t.co/TWzaOgT0IU
Jun 21, 2022 · 4 likes · 1,004 followersView post →
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p993
@p129898 · X
@Breedlove22 https://t.co/ASQdOyTIGT
What are your thoughts about this? He has a lot of good points against the carnivore diet
Dr Paul Saladinos discusses the potential health effects of plant chemicals called phytoalexins and their medicinal properties, questioning traditional views on plant consumption and emphasizing the importance of…
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Gil is one of the best. Ignore the carnivore headline and listen to this short 30 min video. It’s brilliant and you’ll understand why everyone is confused. https://t.co/jNMxdAeYM7
@freshjiva I follow the low carb/keto community closely and I take every expert's opinion w/ a grain of salt but w/ Saladino, I need a fistful of salt.
https://t.co/5UpoOHvI00
@ValerieAnne1970 @psheather3 To illustrate how little you actually know. Here is the first part of a 2 part breakdown of how this fearmongering is not credible.
Paul Saladino threw it all out there on JRE, & it gets shredded here
https://t.co/1q8X9vXOyQ
@CarnivoreMonth I would advise them to get as informed as possible of the strong evidence in nutrition that supports the optimal diet and to do a lot of critical thinking and introspection. But i don’t blame people. There is a LOT of confusion out there.
Part I
https://t.co/lOboix0N02
RT @KarimSamraAR: @soypreme @ShortnBluntTho I’m just wondering how long until the polyps, colon cancer, atherosclerosis, brain degenerative…
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Karim Samra
@KarimSamraAR · X
@NewDawn7411 I’m just wondering how long until the polyps, colon cancer, atherosclerosis, brain degenerative diseases, hypertension and/or diabetes start to creep up
The new deadly fad diet thrives on the fact that people love to hear good things about their bad habits https://t.co/zDPcMwzRoM
@soypreme @ShortnBluntTho I’m just wondering how long until the polyps, colon cancer, atherosclerosis, brain degenerative diseases, hypertension and/or diabetes start to creep up
The new deadly fad diet thrives on the fact that people love to hear good things about their bad habits https://t.co/zDPcMwzRoM
Jan 2, 2024 · 5 likes · 1 share · 145 followersView post →
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Javier Ramirez
@jgramirez618 · X
@drantbradley @DoctorTro @JMNR @drandyphung @KenDBerryMD @paulsaladinomd So I’ll recommend these to satisfy your credentialism. https://t.co/xywG0HuB24
https://t.co/z9b2kfnq6b
@jackmallers @moneymatterzpod @paulsaladinomd Keep an open mind on this .. https://t.co/b0iGchoCRO
Sep 15, 2023 · 1 like · 2,486 followersView post →
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Bart B. Van Bockstaele
@Thamno · X
@fellowshipnate @soymilkthug @ScepticalDoctor @drjamesdinic @reverohealth By the way, here is a video about the subject. I usually do not like videos, but while I disliked his style in the beginning, it has become a lot more palatable AND he provides links to the studies he bases his claims on.
https://t.co/kCw9e4bMEj
https://t.co/jdZRc7PJMl
@DarthQuaint @hastingchris4 @NejiNoHoes @paulsaladinomd Here’s a great YT video by a physician who has no skin in the game ie isn’t trying to make money by fear mongering so that he can sell his supplements and carnivore plans. Saladino is a drama queen and spouts a lot of BS. https://t.co/MWADPnIFfx
@SoonerGM @eric_weathers https://t.co/FmO5ge8nNn
Can't find what I found before, but I have found cool things. This is off-topic in that it does not give the downsides of long-term Carnvoire
@plp_us @anthony_chaffee There is plenty of studies that provide great evidence of cvd! This is a great video https://t.co/1eEUDuzs7W and if you want to see part 2 https://t.co/VhYnQMKbiZ
Sometimes, you just have to leave the echo chamber
@bernardyn_roald @LDGJBD @stillgray If you're confused about the science, I recommend this guy's channel. https://t.co/hxTqEFNP38
Carnivore dieters often misrepresent statistics and blatantly make false claims based on very weak research. The best data we have on human health are double blind PC meta-analyses.
@paulsaladinomd did you ever react to this reaction? https://t.co/CkwsMPJ9fj
Especially the RCTs he shows that lower LDL using drugs which decrease CVD events seem compelling to me, curious to hear your rebuttal?
@KenDBerryMD @anthony_chaffee
@SBakerMD @ifixhearts I'd love to know y'alls thoughts on this video (FF to 13:25) regarding lowering LDL-C to reduce CVD events (research articles are provided in the description of this video if you choose not to watch)
https://t.co/9MgChZQSQ4
@AndrzejDunowski @MasalaFry69 @nutrition_facts A couple of Gil Carvalho’s videos describe the “3 bags of evidence,” which are lab studies, population data, & clinical trials, all of which should used to get at the truth
https://t.co/2P1ak5RNDh
@AndrzejDunowski @nutrition_facts Here’s a video from Dr. Carvalho analyzing claims made by Paul Saladino re carnivore diets. Carvalho nicely summarizes the overwhelming evidence for the benefits of substituting unsaturated fats (“seed oils”) for saturated fat
https://t.co/2P1ak5RNDh
@tomvandeusen @nutrition_facts U seem like a nice fella. If you’re interested in mainstream high quality evidence for dietary health effects, check out Nutrition Made Simple. Here’s its take on the carnivore diet
https://t.co/2P1ak5RNDh
@mtmalinen @Jupupa1 Before falling for the latest fad diet and the bro science behind it you should watch this evidence-based channel. The guy debunks a lot wrong nutrition claims:
https://t.co/KXYlOXY4aj
@carniyogi @lean_minded What? You provided nothing at all so are still losing at this point.
Here is a great video by @NutritionMadeS3 on this exact thing >> https://t.co/5iuFrct4vB
And it even has s part 2, watch & learn>> https://t.co/Xtt4JP1Bhe
@vit_amindee @CarnivoreMD @PeterAttiaMD @NutritionMadeS3 @theproof @MohammedAlo @Drlipid Seems you have a genuine interest in learning here. I highly recommend checking this video out from @NutritionMadeS3 on Paul's dismissal of cholesterol being a factor in CVD. https://t.co/xDfoWwUwKQ
@SevereJury8 @bsprowls @ImbecileHunter7 @MasalaFry69 @DoctorTro This is where he gets into the risks of too much saturated fat intake (with citations):
https://t.co/6mlDOeFySD
@steida @Milosval1 @SatsJoseph Shodou okolností jsem tomu věnoval docela velké úsilí, právě proto že se tahle vlna dostává ke mě.
1) https://t.co/2G6CcLIzuB
2) https://t.co/iQhjiPB9Ok
3) https://t.co/gvMCdHJlCD
Ale bude to těžká debata, protože https://t.co/qVgzXxEqm6
@EUbrainwashing To see where Paul's approach falls down, i'll leave it Dr Gil Carvalho, an actual nutrition scientist to unpack it for you
https://t.co/5iuFrct4vB
@BrianBoru941 @Wes_Talley @FHickens The evidence:
The lower the LDL-Cholesterol, the better:
https://t.co/nireMqoA1T
LDL is causally linked to atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease:
https://t.co/vCEa6u0MCn
High LDL is bad even if you're otherwise "healthy":
https://t.co/15UeZOzlrc
@BrianBoru941 @FHickens (2/2)
The lower the LDL-Cholesterol, the better:
https://t.co/nireMqo2cl
LDL is causally linked to atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease:
https://t.co/vCEa6u0eMP
High LDL is bad even if you're otherwise "healthy":
https://t.co/15UeZOyNBE
@cryptofrogpepe @foodscibabe @kevinnbass Another scientist I recommend following who discusses nutrition science is @NutritionMadeS3 who has some Saladino vids.
Scientist reacts to Carnivore Doctor on Joe Rogan
https://t.co/0WrdDPEjTg
Scientist reacts to Carnivore Doctor on Joe Rogan | Part II
https://t.co/hA1U0XTrWb
@DrFarazHarsini TMAO seems to be a bystander and not causally related. The TMAO concern is now outdated.
See this video with @NutritionMadeS3
https://t.co/0WrdDPEjTg
@zoeharcombe In the endless back and forth on the saturated fat issue, I was wondering how you would respond to Nutrition Made Simple! https://t.co/kMk6a0xVuQ. He sites very many RTC and makes a good case. Thanks.
@Rand0mBum @TradeAngel3 @BuckleUpBrandon @gudkoin this guy doesnt do any science. he is not real doctor.
here debunk video about his claims https://t.co/VLhS2pp8r3
do u also have any credible sources like studies or clinical trials? i have thousands of studies about the health benefits of vegetables.
@ChadCurrieFit @bluepearl555 @deckerlesscarbs https://t.co/oYZmijb5wH I think this has pretty good info. Basically what a cardiologist would tell you (as to why carnivore diet is risky). & Evidence to back it up..
Mar 31, 2022 · 1 like · 1 share · 216,226 followersView post →
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Henri Mourant
@henri_mourant · X
@a_davemiller @kevinnbass @dranthonygustin That that guy thinks all plant food is toxic (despite evidence pointing to the opposite). If you want a debunk of his claims (I watch these for fun lol) by an expert there's this:
https://t.co/TWzaOgT0IU
Mar 26, 2022 · 7 likes · 1,004 followersView post →
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p993
@p129898 · X
@BitSilva1 @BitcoioD00mMano https://t.co/ASQdOyTIGT
Tem muito bitcoiner que acredita na dieta carnívora, segue vídeo de um cientista que mudou a minha opinião sobre dieta carnívora.
@CarnivoreMD @SBakerMD
@NutritionMadeS3 seems to like to critique video clips. I think it would be better to have a direct discussion.
https://t.co/u8OLiDkpWG
@MarcoHodler50 https://t.co/ASQdOyTIGT
Qual a tua opinião sobre o que esse cara fala da dieta carnívora? Eu tava quase sendo convencido a ser carnívoro 100% até ver esse vídeo. São 2 partes
@GMEisnotameme this vid goes over some of the studies: https://t.co/f0O8Tbj33R The video i linked above in this thread has good info on the some of the other studies too.
@SouthernYankey @tomdlal @EuroBirdBrain @voxdotcom Plants are good for you. We have tons of randomized controlled trials that show that eating more plants improves your health (and yes also compared to meat). I can send you links to many of those RTCs if you want but this video explains it very well:
https://t.co/TWzaOgT0IU
@DrAlanDesmond @CarnivoreMD Sadly not. He's for real & a bullshit artist of the highest order. A real nutritional expert named Gil Carvalho debunks him hard in this video >> https://t.co/5iuFrct4vB
@SkiersRight @PIAccount1 @ElOrcoRojo @naomimath And as long as you're using the argument from authority (doctor with x citations), have another doctor go through some of Saladino's arguments: https://t.co/YCKBEVKz3B
@kevinnbass @langernutrition @robrohan I’ve started checking out Gil Carvalho @NutritionMadeS3 who seems more reasonable than Dr Greger but he’s also part of the True Health Initiative so, potentially biased too. At least he said he quit talking about TMAO due to lack of causal evidence https://t.co/UO9zKL0xns
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Light-Yagami
@LightYa33625392 · X
RT @NutritionMadeS3: Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics…
RT @NutritionMadeS3: Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics…
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Pissed Off PT
@PissedOff_PT · X
RT @NutritionMadeS3: Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics…
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Jeffrey A. Hirschfield, MD
@DrHirschfield · X
RT @NutritionMadeS3: Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics…
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Ron Harmon
@Rhodesiensical · X
RT @NutritionMadeS3: Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics…
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Matthew Nagra, ND
@drmatthewnagra · X
Great breakdown by @NutritionMadeS3! Hoping there will be a part 2, 3, 4, etc.
https://t.co/C715kicvgi
Dec 14, 2020 · 3 likes · 1 share · 3,196 followersView post →
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Bhopender Thakur
@TheBhupiThakur · X
RT @NutritionMadeS3: Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics…
Dec 14, 2020 · 6 shares · 1,364 followersView post →
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Gil Carvalho MD PhD
@NutritionMadeS3 · X
Got numerous requests to comment on @CarnivoreMD's episode on @joerogan so we took the chance to break down the basics of nutrition science and cardiovascular research for anyone wanting a primer
what we know and how we know it
part I released today:
https://t.co/UwSOXTXtC7
Dec 14, 2020 · 39 likes · 6 shares · 28,160 followersView post →
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