@B9F3G4 At the point we start looking at great ape single nucleotide mutation rates, it is useful to consider rates per year instead of per generation, because their generations are shorter than human generations. https://t.co/Ap9JikvMdR
Generation times in wild chimpanzees and gorillas suggest earlier divergence times in great ape and human evolution.
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The group demonstrates a thoughtful engagement with the article, exemplified by comments about the molecular clock, fossil record, and debates over the timing of divergence events, with some users emphasizing the relevance of new genetic methods and others questioning their implications or the robustness of current fossil evidence.
Most discussions support the idea that our understanding of divergence times is shifting based on new molecular data, though some remain skeptical or seek additional sources.
The discussions show a moderate level of curiosity, especially around the implications of earlier divergence times and methodological adjustments.
Participants reference specific studies, debate revision of estimates, and discuss fossil evidence, indicating thoughtful engagement.
The conversation suggests this research influences how scholars and enthusiasts think about human origins, potentially affecting future studies and interpretations.
Abstract in brief
- This study uses genetic parentage data from wild chimpanzees and gorillas to estimate their average generation times, providing an independent approach from fossil records.
- They compare these estimates with human data and apply recent mutation rate estimates to determine divergence times, finding that humans and chimpanzees likely split around 7.8 million years ago.
- The researchers also date the Neanderthal and modern human split to roughly 400,000 to 800,000 years ago, suggesting that molecular divergence times align with fossil evidence of early human and Neanderthal ancestors.]
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@WrldOfPaleoAnth I think revisions to the molecular clock estimates as well as more ppl taking Sahelanthropus more seriously as a hominin have shifted it back. Though I usually say 7-8mya (eg see below) and would be curious about a source for an earlier estimate. https://t.co/iy0MnVAxjf
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Generation times in wild chimpanzees and gorillas suggest earlier divergence times in great ape and human evolution. https://t.co/v3M9IPFb8N
@RoblovesJC Peer-reviewed Scientific Truth 3, Dirt + Magic Kung Fu Minister 0. https://t.co/v07oxalo5V
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@WrldOfPaleoAnth I think revisions to the molecular clock estimates as well as more ppl taking Sahelanthropus more seriously as a hominin have shifted it back. Though I usually say 7-8mya (eg see below) and would be curious about a source for an earlier estimate. https://t.co/iy0MnVAxjf
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Generation times in wild chimpanzees and gorillas suggest earlier divergence times in great ape and human evolution. https://t.co/v3M9IPFIYl
@B9F3G4 At the point we start looking at great ape single nucleotide mutation rates, it is useful to consider rates per year instead of per generation, because their generations are shorter than human generations. https://t.co/Ap9JikvMdR
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