The algorithmic origins of life.

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☿ Footnotes2Plato ☼☽

@ThouArtThat · X

Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call formal causes) https://t.co/Zo9dsecHlM

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Santa Fe Institute

@sfiscience · X

From SFI External Prof @Sara_Imari (@Beyond_ASU): The algorithmic #OriginsOfLife https://t.co/m5S5dZKtss #UniversalScaling across biochemical networks on Earth https://t.co/zvi13UUZ4W   @freethinkmedia video: What Alien Life Could Teach Us About Humanity https://t.co/rYJbfiLVAC https://t.co/udytCKczNX

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Bert Hubert (DNA)

@DNAntonie · X

This appears to be a very good read: https://t.co/Jyl3Iz9DZQ

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Sara Imari Walker

@Sara_Imari · X

@Ceremona @michaelgarfield @FroehlichMarcel @sfiscience we proposed origin of life as a transition in informational architecture here in 2013, but there is a long history of thinking by many great researchers in this direction https://t.co/kSXLbyu7z7

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@architectonyx · X

@nc_znc as first commenter, i'll give you "The algorithmic origins of life", a great starting point for thinking about origins of life outside of chemistry (aka the question "regardless of microscopic details, why should life emerge at all?") https://t.co/UAfihSJDKd

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Stephen Pimentel

@StephenPiment · X

The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/lt9LvcjztT

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Complexity Cat

@amahury0 · X

@yoginho IMO she has changed her thinking a lot since 2013, where she clearly had computationalist tendencies to characterize life./1 https://t.co/yEN3e03HmT

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Limit and Mind | Defend the Faith

@limitandmind · X

@sygarte Saw this idea echoed in a paper by Davies and Walker “The Algorithmic Origins of Life”, discussing that the transition from life to non-life is the acquisition of top down causal influences. Interestingly, in causal inference, you don’t climb the causal hierarchy (Pearl’s

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Blake Elias (me/acc, we/acc)

@geekblake · X

"the emergence of life may correspond to a physical transition associated with a shift in the causal structure, where information gains direct and context-dependent causal efficacy over the matter in which it is instantiated" https://t.co/VcfXbRpiDI

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Ivan Vidal (Van-rito Ullij)

@nanoLaniakea · X

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Patrick Drake

@time8machine · X

@CloserToTruth @Sara_Imari The algorithmic origins of life Sara Imari Walker and Paul C. W. Davies https://t.co/1tntGWS8pR

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Complexity Cat

@amahury0 · X

RT @amahury0: @nilsengu @Sara_Imari If you read “The algorithmic origins of life” by @Sara_Imari you will notice that her perspective on wh…

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Complexity Cat

@amahury0 · X

@nilsengu @Sara_Imari If you read “The algorithmic origins of life” by @Sara_Imari you will notice that her perspective on what life is has changed in the last decade. https://t.co/yEN3e03HmT

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Cezary Żekanowski

@CZekanowski · X

Walker SI, Davies PCW. 2013 The algorithmic origins of life. J R Soc Interface 10: 20120869. https://t.co/oNIZZP8bwH https://t.co/GVx2YWCc1m

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Melchior

@chaos_commander · X

@SharonRawlette @RalphStefanWeir Why can't phenomenal consciousness be understood as higher order informational processes that are independent of underlying lower order (physical) processes? See: https://t.co/OjswXMvIBH

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Design Disquisitions

@designinference · X

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António Filipe Fonseca

@antfilfon · X

@ManuTanger não, estive a ler um review papers da autora de 2012 https://t.co/x4pdbYOZLL, muito interessante, uma frontier woman. o tema é fascinante

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Melchior

@chaos_commander · X

@KevinAFischer Perhaps this: https://t.co/OjswXMvIBH

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fellow ⚚ traveler ❤️‍

@architectonyx · X

@nc_znc as first commenter, i'll give you "The algorithmic origins of life", a great starting point for thinking about origins of life outside of chemistry (aka the question "regardless of microscopic details, why should life emerge at all?") https://t.co/UAfihSJDKd

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Melchior

@chaos_commander · X

@beffjezos And life is the phase transition where higher-level informational structures constrain and gain causal efficacy over the lower levels and, ultimately, even the physical matter in which it is instantiated in. https://t.co/OjswXMvIBH

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Design Disquisitions

@designinference · X

Coming very soon is episode 2 in my audio paper series where I read the fascinating paper ‘The Algorithmic Origins of Life’ by Paul Davies and Sara Walker: https://t.co/0HWNqT5sFx.

RT @acbnempa: https://t.co/rsXPxOYUeR

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Daryl Costello

@DarylC71 · X

The algorithmic origins of life | Journal of The Royal Society Interface https://t.co/1QawwnFvwX

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QuantResearcher

@UAPresearcher · X

@TRej2011 @CubeSteve @ThyreonPisteos @Renevelation @Kastonius @BeatTheCult Here's a good article on OOL by Paul Davies and Sarah Walker. For me, their work is the truest. They don't lie about the problems in OOL and OOI (origin of information which is tied to OOL) https://t.co/m6zlgW1SA2

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Remmelt Ellen

@RemmeltE · X

@ProfNoahGian There is some interesting literature on defining life. https://t.co/p69fRJfEgC

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Remmelt Ellen

@RemmeltE · X

@SturnioloSimone Need to consider how evolutionary selection acts on the basis of physical interactions that bring about conditions/contexts needed for atoms/molecules to be maintained and re-assembled in their configurations. Worth reading, by a physicist: https://t.co/p69fRJfEgC

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Mikael Krauze - Telic Thoughts

@MikaelKrauze · X

@JustRickard @worldviewdesign The challenge I'm raising is basically the one Sara Walker & Paul Davies identify as the central challenge of the origin of life: To explain how instructional information control systems emerge naturally and spontaneously from mere molecular dynamics. https://t.co/6E0tuL4i1q https://t.co/4vdiCdn1J6

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Remmelt Ellen

@RemmeltE · X

@o_guest @ForrestLandry19 @JimRuttShow @Sara_Imari These are rare and busy people. I don't know whether they're seriously motivated to check whether "self-sufficient learning machinery", as realisable, would be inherently destructive of our ecosystem. Ie. no co-evolution. Dr Walker has the insights: https://t.co/p69fRJgc6a

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Remmelt Ellen

@RemmeltE · X

@squaredunit Actually, artificial lifeforms are physically possible: https://t.co/p69fRJgc6a Learning machinery that can operate and maintain/re-produce their own components without needing to interact with humans. Their needs would diverge entirely from ours, and it would wipe us all out.

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Remmelt Ellen

@RemmeltE · X

@AfterDaylight @politeabox Yes, and you need both the DNA and the surrounding protein-expression context for life to work. https://t.co/p69fRJfEgC A mistake you are making here is that implying that you can reduce the space of relevant physical features through which the biological organism functions.

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John F. Allen

@ProfJohnAllen · X

RT @pennybun01: BEAUTIFUL paper from 10 years ago. "Thus, the algorithm inhabits one molecular universe and its products inhabit another. W…

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pennybun01

@pennybun01 · X

BEAUTIFUL paper from 10 years ago. "Thus, the algorithm inhabits one molecular universe and its products inhabit another. We consider this separation to be one of the hallmarks of life" https://t.co/zMtwkgueY8

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Luis Loaiza

@luisloaiza · X

The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/kj5qfi5Ftz

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@gecko39 · X

The algorithmic origins of life Sara Imari Walker Paul C. W. Davies 06FEB2013 https://t.co/Sau0vmx53k Although it has been notoriously difficult to pin down precisely what is it that makes life so distinctive & remarkable, there is general agreement that its informational ...

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Remmelt Ellen

@RemmeltE · X

“We should at least ponder: maybe human-level artificial intelligence is impossible. Maybe the universe can do things we can’t.” How about the universe will do what it did to organic chemical assemblies to artificial (silica) assemblies? https://t.co/p69fRJgc6a

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Remmelt Ellen

@RemmeltE · X

@mgubrud Agreed that currently no AI system is reproducing (non-trivially self-replicating) as a lifeform: https://t.co/p69fRJgc6a I would prefer to keep it that way.

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QuantResearcher

@UAPresearcher · X

@GZzyzyx @Timay777 @DesideriaMesa This is one of my favorites or Paul Davies The Demon the Machine is nice as well. https://t.co/m6zlgW1SA2

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QuantResearcher

@UAPresearcher · X

@JaTapps @Ah_Science @DanielJNickolas @WatsonSpeaking @TakeThatDarwin @encyclopath @BigRig_atoni @CharClin @RealBrysonGray Sarah Walker and Paul Davies article. Now, I will caveat they do present the pros and cons to each, matter first or information first. The highlighted references the problem of information first. https://t.co/GS35eyz4fA https://t.co/sSSLMh3vpr

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Brock

@BrockMcKean · X

@intranaut @sfiscience The Algorithmic Origins of Life https://t.co/g5VSNKa6Xm

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Mike Doyle

@Fe3Mike · X

@ch34f @nickblack Is this what you meant, Nick? https://t.co/9XZgb68ty0

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Manish Kumar

@manish9167 · X

RT @DNAntonie: This appears to be a very good read: https://t.co/Jyl3Iz9DZQ

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Bert Hubert (DNA)

@DNAntonie · X

This appears to be a very good read: https://t.co/Jyl3Iz9DZQ

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Horacio Pérez Sánchez

@horacio_ps · X

RT @flloaers: Now tiptoeing down the bibliographical rabbit hole: The algorithmic origins of life, by Sara Imari Walker [@Sara_Imari] & Pa…

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NeuroKinesio

@NKinesio · X

“Подробней об этом см. работу Марсии Бейтс «Fundamental Forms of Information» и работу Сары Имари Уокер и ПолаДэвиса «The algorithmic origins of life».” https://t.co/2fIEJ4TL6a

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Otangelo Grasso

@OtangeloG · X

@SmallRobotArmy @Leigh252425 @ericmetaxas Biosemiotic information: Where does it come from? https://t.co/CMOi7pciL6 https://t.co/6SSGhP3nFF

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Tatsuya Seamus Corlett

@tatsuya_corlett · X

that cannot be crossed by mere complexification of passive hardware... For this rather deep reason, it may be that life had to be 'bimolecular' from the start." https://t.co/lPhwh1lOEL

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Alexander Riccio (@co2trackers)

@ariccio · X

@Kangerine @samanthaeulala @CovidSolidarit1 Related: wanna blow your mind? Life is a software program of matter. But NOT how you think. https://t.co/Yfu9jgKqKg https://t.co/8HvOPPzrpp

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Florence Lenaers

@flloaers · X

Now tiptoeing down the bibliographical rabbit hole: The algorithmic origins of life, by Sara Imari Walker [@Sara_Imari] & Paul C W Davies

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Complexity Cat

@amahury0 · X

https://t.co/yEN3e03HmT “Characterizing the emergence of life as a shift in causal structure due to information gaining causal efficacy over matter marks the origin of life as a unique transition in the physical realm.”

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Simon Crosby

@simoncrosby · X

RT @StephenPiment: The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/lt9LvcjztT

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Stephen Pimentel

@StephenPiment · X

The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/lt9LvcjztT

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James V. Kohl

@microRNApro · X

"The algorithmic origins of [energy-dependent biophysically constrained] life" https://t.co/7pnQT1IclA 2/6/13 Compare the algorithmic origins to https://t.co/4AnTlUUv7u 4/25/20 Take two algorithms and use them to suppress the facts about sunlight, humidity and pH-dependent life.

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☿ Footnotes2Plato ☼☽

@ThouArtThat · X

In their paper "The algorithmic origins of life," Sarah Walker (@Sara_Imari) & Paul Davies understand genetic information & functionality as context dependent, distributed throughout the environment & emergent from the whole history of the organism, rather than being

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Adrian

@hojadi · X

@dirk_fasshauer @umfpt @TakeThatDarwin @DiscoveryCSC @Ah_Science @hessenjunge76 @DoubleDumas @spikeinthemidge P1 is true! You said you'd do your homework. "what makes life so distinctive and remarkable [6–8], there is general agreement that its INFORMATIONAL aspect is one key property, and perhaps the key property [9–12]." https://t.co/euyio620vL

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Adrian

@hojadi · X

@dirk_fasshauer @umfpt @TakeThatDarwin @DiscoveryCSC Perhaps it isn't clear to you that I'm not arguing against Evolution. Only against the "blind" aspect of Darwinism. My P1&P2 argument is for Abiogenesis. Many scientists see the shortcoming of Neo-Darwinism. Some are presented here https://t.co/euyio620vL

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Adrian

@hojadi · X

@hessenjunge76 @dirk_fasshauer @TakeThatDarwin @DiscoveryCSC This scientist contradicts u: Sarah Imari Walker - theoretical physicist & astrobiologist: "Chemical-based approaches have stalled at a very early stage of chemical complexity – very far from anything we would consider ‘alive.’" Read up: https://t.co/euyio620vL

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Otangelo Grasso

@OtangeloG · X

@theosib2 @nordstelo @rkdoctr @StevenDJBaumann You are self delusional. The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/UUkpBYoMWq https://t.co/ImAYOtmNXr

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Otangelo Grasso

@OtangeloG · X

@theosib2 @0x526978 @pointclovis2 @ErichKays @Uncle_Grosstoes The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/UUkpBYoMWq https://t.co/KhW3AHDcAr

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Alexander Alleman

@AlexanderAllem3 · X

RT @ThouArtThat: Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call for…

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Dr. Hyunju Kim

@drkimpanda · X

RT @ThouArtThat: Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call for…

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G M Masum Billah

@guitarfishmasum · X

RT @ThouArtThat: Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call for…

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Dr. Jim Elser, PhD

@DrLimnology · X

RT @ThouArtThat: Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call for…

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Sara Imari Walker

@Sara_Imari · X

RT @ThouArtThat: Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call for…

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Francisco

@Fandmui · X

RT @ThouArtThat: Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call for…

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☿ Footnotes2Plato ☼☽

@ThouArtThat · X

Fantastic paper by @Sara_Imari & Paul Davies on origin of life marked by top-down informational control (what I'd call formal causes) https://t.co/Zo9dsecHlM

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Otangelo Grasso

@OtangeloG · X

@StatedClearly @RichardDawkins @DavidFialho @leecronin @Sara_Imari The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/9mYGH6CG1z https://t.co/eHcaKnCdaD

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Otangelo Grasso

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@sygarte @StatedClearly @RationalityRule https://t.co/usRzmOAhe8 https://t.co/UUkpBYoMWq https://t.co/S0R8RurzWf https://t.co/BnG5QWjysV https://t.co/qaIBTQ5azh

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Otangelo Grasso

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@TCRReece @macready_john @bonsaibean @ForumAtheist The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/UUkpBYoMWq

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Otangelo Grasso

@OtangeloG · X

@dannyphiltalk The algorithmic origins of life https://t.co/UUkpBYoMWq

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Perry Marshall

@PerryMarshall · X

@manlius84 @SaibalMitra12 @Sara_Imari @MikePFrank @LuisMateusRocha @ricard_sole @jrcxavier @lifelikephysics @leecronin @C4COMPUTATION @Gemma_DLC @ChristophAdami @JuliPereto @brigan_raman Walker https://t.co/NhCma6Jz9M Yockey https://t.co/ogezxsW4eL Yockey https://t.co/e75NNdI3Ow Walker https://t.co/as97xKwEon

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Alexander Riccio (@co2trackers)

@ariccio · X

@kprather88 @RommieAmaro @abbydommer @CAICECCI @Sara_Imari Ref: https://t.co/Yfu9jgKqKg

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Alexander Riccio (@co2trackers)

@ariccio · X

@kprather88 @RommieAmaro @abbydommer @CAICECCI I think imma file this among my favorite papers, up there with @Sara_Imari's "The Algorithmic Origins of Life"

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Daniel Buk

@DanBuk4 · X

RT @sfiscience: From SFI External Prof @Sara_Imari (@Beyond_ASU): The algorithmic #OriginsOfLife https://t.co/m5S5dZKtss #UniversalScalin…

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Santa Fe Institute

@sfiscience · X

From SFI External Prof @Sara_Imari (@Beyond_ASU): The algorithmic #OriginsOfLife https://t.co/m5S5dZKtss #UniversalScaling across biochemical networks on Earth https://t.co/zvi13UUZ4W   @freethinkmedia video: What Alien Life Could Teach Us About Humanity https://t.co/rYJbfiLVAC https://t.co/udytCKczNX

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Mike Cane

@mikecane · X

RT @Sara_Imari: @Ceremona @michaelgarfield @FroehlichMarcel @sfiscience we proposed origin of life as a transition in informational archite…

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Santa Fe Institute

@sfiscience · X

RT @Sara_Imari: @Ceremona @michaelgarfield @FroehlichMarcel @sfiscience we proposed origin of life as a transition in informational archite…

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Sara Imari Walker

@Sara_Imari · X

@Ceremona @michaelgarfield @FroehlichMarcel @sfiscience we proposed origin of life as a transition in informational architecture here in 2013, but there is a long history of thinking by many great researchers in this direction https://t.co/kSXLbyu7z7

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Dr. Acacia Ackles

@alackles · X

@maniermk In that case, @Sara_Imari has some really captivating theory work that is both exciting to read and communicates really well what is interesting about pure theory: https://t.co/6hu4U90uhn And I don't have a particular paper in mind but I know I've also enjoyed reading Sarah Otto

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Santa Fe Institute

@sfiscience · X

@pnavidi @neurovium @Entropy_MDPI @nataliegref @Sara_Imari @ChrisKempes And we're back to where we started. No point in discourse if you're convinced you're right without considering the alternative position. This is unsettled science. We hope you find our research helpful. It's as rigorous as possible. Have a great day. https://t.co/m5S5dZKtss

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Alexander Riccio (@co2trackers)

@ariccio · X

@whitequark Wanna have some fun? The Algorithmic Origins of Life, by Sara walker.

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Jay

@Jay3_16 · X

RT @fscinico: The algorithmic origins of life. Although it has been difficult to pin down precisely what is it that makes life so distincti…

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Omnia Munda Mundis

@aquavitae96 · X

The algorithmic origins of life. Although it has been difficult to pin down precisely what is it that makes life so distinctive and remarkable, there is general agreement that its informational aspect is one key property, perhaps the key property. https://t.co/6BzjLdMFWK

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Philosophers for Sustainability

@Phil4Sustain · X

RT @HelmanDaniel: @Phil4Sustain @IAPGeoethics Sure! I love Kant's Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals as an introduction to rights; and…

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Daniel S Helman, PhD

@HelmanDaniel · X

@Phil4Sustain @IAPGeoethics Sure! I love Kant's Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals as an introduction to rights; and work by Margulis on endosymbiosis https://t.co/SPwaa3kb86 and Lovelock on Gaia Hypothesis; and various authors on definitions of life. https://t.co/0NClDyBde8 https://t.co/ipWkdxsgZf

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