The overall discussions reflect a strong interest in the evolutionary reasoning behind facial features, with examples like the mention of 'protective buttressing' and how facial robustness correlates with fighting ability. The tone varies from supportive to skeptical, but many acknowledge the potential significance of these findings for understanding human development.
AgreementModerate agreement
Most discussions support the idea that facial features evolved for protection during fighting, with some emphasizing the logic behind it.
InterestHigh interest
Posts show high curiosity about the research, especially about how facial structures relate to fighting and mating behaviors.
EngagementHigh engagement
Many users dive into related topics like musculature, sexual dimorphism, and evolutionary implications, demonstrating deep engagement.
ImpactModerate impact
While some doubt the conclusions, there is recognition that this research offers meaningful insights into human evolution and social behavior.
Abstract in brief
The text suggests that many facial features of early hominins, such as the shape of the face and robustness of certain facial bones, may have evolved primarily to protect against facial injuries during fist fighting.
The differences in facial robustness between robust and gracile australopiths might be more related to mating behaviors rather than diet, with robust features providing protective advantages and reduced robustness in Homo linked to decreased physical strength.
The protective buttressing hypothesis explains why humans, who do not typically fight with biting, show pronounced differences in jaw and neck muscle strength between sexes and why facial shape might be used to assess fighting ability.
"males with more masculine faces appear better able to survive violent confrontations...facial masculinity is viewed as an honest signal conveying information about formidability"
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And again in the face
(All this work was done by David Carrier... It's crazy how successful a researcher can be when they take into account the reality of nature)
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1⃣8⃣2⃣ Os homens têm 48-65% mais massa muscular do que as mulheres.
Os humanos apresentam níveis muito elevados de dimorfismo sexual nas partes do sistema musculoesquelético pós-craniano, o que dá aos homens maior vantagem num combate.
via @robkhenderson
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@gatchy3_ @evil_scott Oh but some random YouTube video with no sources at all is better... Oh OK sure LMFAO
And bet here's the actual research paper oh but you'll deflect again right? LMFAO https://t.co/OegUzbfkxb
@sonjameav @Regendelfin @batafly_3 Es spricht vieles für Kämpfe auch vor der Sesshaftigkeit. Auch vorher gab es ja einiges zu erobern (nicht zuletzt: Frauen)
Männer haben auch Knochenverstärkungen etc und sind auch sonst auf Kampf optimiert im Vergleich zu Frauen
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@MLPersona @Genpoden Se t.ex. "protective buttressing hypothesis", som även noterar ca 35% större bitstyrka (käkmuskler) hos män.
«... our species exhibits pronounced sexual dimorphism in the strength and power of the jaw and neck musculature»
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The human chin remains an enduring puzzle, with scientists proposing various theories related to speech, chewing, or sexual selection. Despite many hypotheses, its exact development and function continue to challenge…
A recent study suggests human facial features evolved to protect against facial injuries during fights. The findings indicate robust facial bones may have helped early hominins withstand fist fighting, possibly…
And again in the face
(All this work was done by David Carrier... It's crazy how successful a researcher can be when they take into account the reality of nature)
https://t.co/5KNI6KjRPd
May 9, 2024 · 6 likes · 1,385 followersView post →
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NIH: Biological reviews of
the Cambridge Philosophical Society
2015 Feb;90(1):330-46. doi: 10.1111/brv.12112.
Protective buttressing of the hominin face
https://t.co/mUhElrKwjR
"In this review, we suggest that many of the facial features that characterize early hominins evolved to protect the face from injury during fighting with fists."
https://t.co/mUhElrKwjR
"When humans fight hand-to-hand the face is usually the primary target and the bones that suffer the highest rates of fracture are the parts of the skull that exhibit the greatest increase in robusticity during the evolution of basal hominins."
https://t.co/mUhElrKwjR
"These bones (my note: facial bones) are also the most sexually dimorphic parts of the skull in both australopiths and humans."
https://t.co/mUhElrKwjR
"If the protective buttressing hypothesis is correct, the primary differences in the face of robust versus gracile australopiths may be more a function of differences in mating system than differences in diet as is generally assumed."
https://t.co/mUhElrKwjR
"The protective buttressing hypothesis is also consistent with observations that modern humans can accurately assess a male's strength and fighting ability from facial shape and voice quality."
https://t.co/mUhElrKwjR
@iamaristalea @posimentali especially male faces. https://t.co/93oRSR8F01 and https://t.co/2sKVDJ1nEc
this is of course just speculation by these scientists, though logically it is a good addition to other ideas including diet shaping facial structure in protohumans.
@gatchy3_ @evil_scott Oh but some random YouTube video with no sources at all is better... Oh OK sure LMFAO
And bet here's the actual research paper oh but you'll deflect again right? LMFAO https://t.co/OegUzbfkxb
@sonjameav @Regendelfin @batafly_3 Es spricht vieles für Kämpfe auch vor der Sesshaftigkeit. Auch vorher gab es ja einiges zu erobern (nicht zuletzt: Frauen)
Männer haben auch Knochenverstärkungen etc und sind auch sonst auf Kampf optimiert im Vergleich zu Frauen
https://t.co/qIkgNnwVR5
https://t.co/jXLQmNRQ5V
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"males with more masculine faces appear better able to survive violent confrontations...facial masculinity is viewed as an honest signal conveying information about formidability"
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"males with more masculine faces appear better able to survive violent confrontations...facial masculinity is viewed as an honest signal conveying information about formidability"
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1⃣8⃣2⃣ Os homens têm 48-65% mais massa muscular do que as mulheres.
Os humanos apresentam níveis muito elevados de dimorfismo sexual nas partes do sistema musculoesquelético pós-craniano, o que dá aos homens maior vantagem num combate.
via @robkhenderson
https://t.co/ymkOAphU59 https://t.co/sI6flc9ySH
@MLPersona @Genpoden Se t.ex. "protective buttressing hypothesis", som även noterar ca 35% större bitstyrka (käkmuskler) hos män.
«... our species exhibits pronounced sexual dimorphism in the strength and power of the jaw and neck musculature»
https://t.co/GqGFyxOSs0
Sep 13, 2021 · 1 like · 1,579 followersView post →
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