The discussions reflect a mix of perspectives on Walter Kempner's rice diet, with comments like, 'His basically rice and fruit diet brought people back from really ill health,' showcasing strong support for its benefits. Others express skepticism while acknowledging Kempner's innovative approach, noting that 'he didn't do RCTs', indicating a nuanced understanding of his work's context. The tone varies from enthusiastic to critical, contributing to the overall sentiment that while the diet was groundbreaking, it may not align with modern nutritional standards.
AgreementModerate agreement
Most discussions express a level of agreement with the publication's insights on Kempner's diet.
InterestHigh interest
Several comments display high curiosity about the rice diet and its historical significance.
EngagementModerate engagement
While some discussions delve into details of Kempner's methods, others merely acknowledge them without deeper analysis.
ImpactHigh impact
The majority of contributors believe that Kempner’s work has had a lasting impact on dietary approaches in medicine.
Abstract in brief
Walter Kempner was a physician who developed the rice diet in the 1940s as a treatment for hypertension and diabetes.
The diet primarily consisted of white rice, fruit, and sugar, emphasizing low salt and low fat to improve health outcomes.
Kempner's work greatly influenced dietary approaches in medicine, showcasing the impact of nutrition on chronic diseases.
@mirvatalasnag @BenSaaud @CircAHA @ErinMichos @DBelardoMD @AnastasiaSMihai @JamalRanaMD @purviparwani @dramitkhera @DrPascalMeier @VDelgadoGarcia @SaDeRosa78 @KardiologieHH @georgehret @Hragy @Ed_Alania So, 22 year history of HTN and somehow, just 4 months of this highly cost effective interventions lowered BP by 12.5mmHg. Didn't Walter Kempner argue this back in the 1940s?!
https://t.co/bCs4N4pG6c
Walter Kemper saw the value in lifestyle and diet in treating BP a long long time ago and he was able to produce results such as these, using what he called the "rice diet"
https://t.co/Q5LOOtXEAa. https://t.co/qDVt7D2GwT
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Jeremy Loenneke
@jploenneke · X
Who and What Drove Walter Kempner?
The Rice Diet Revisited
Link: https://t.co/UGuD8Wc953 https://t.co/SXp615WPAo
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MacroFour
@MacroFour · X
@ScepticalDoctor Out of 192 patients, 25 died! Admittedly severe hypertension was more serious then, but if a doctor today had that kind of record there would at least be an inquiry. If they were a low -carb doctor & one patient died, there would likely be a hanging.
@mkj1928 @calleymeans @Jesse_Livermore "Klemmer, Philip & Grim, Clarence & Luft, Friedrich. (2014). Who and What Drove Walter Kempner? The Rice Diet Revisited. Hypertension. 64.0.1161/HYPERTENSIONAHA.114.03946. "
There are no "decades of success with the Rice Clinic", nor does Kempner's diet reflect modern nutrition.
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The rice diet, created by Dr. Walter Kempner in the 1940s, was designed to treat hypertension and diabetes. This rigorous diet, primarily consisting of white rice and fruits, showed significant health improvements…
Sugar does not cause diabetes. In this video, we explore the insights of Walter Kempner, who developed the rice diet in the 1940s as a treatment for hypertension and diabetes, demonstrating the significant impact of…
This video explores the rice diet developed by Dr. Walter Kempner in the 1940s, designed to combat hypertension and diabetes. It focuses on a simple regimen of white rice, fruits, and sugar, showcasing how nutrition can…
A high carb diet has historically reversed diabetes and hypertension. Developed by Walter Kempner in the 1940s, the rice diet focuses on low salt and low fat to improve health outcomes, demonstrating significant…
@SamaHoole In the Kempner rice diet, fat intake was capped at 2 to 3 percent (https://t.co/UuAqnmGHCT), so that tells us that it's probably safe to have a fat intake under about 15 grams daily for at least a while in most cases.
@Arbiarso_W Padahal banyak jurnal yang ngedebunk rice dietnya si dokter nazi itu
https://t.co/UrOI7vTNWV
Dan juga rice diet itu literally "makan nasi doang" dan diselingi buah buahan
Selama penelitian si Kempner juga sampai harus mencambuk objek penelitiannya biar tertib makan nasi doang https://t.co/GEBqD7JRaw
@BrianLenzkes @mold_time Kemper would disagree with you. His basically rice and fruit diet brought people back from really ill health including obesity and diabetes. But also some folks still died too sadly. Super interesting though.
https://t.co/GyD6sAnyyL
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Biomass Bob
@SentientBlobBob · X
@MattyParks12 @ifixhearts https://t.co/5wjl5DKp8U
Actual facts.
@ollieD68 @BioLayne Okay, I did the Googling to address this: "The rice diet was subsequently extended to patients with nephrotic syndrome, hypercholesterolemia, diabetes mellitus, atherosclerosis, and subsequently obesity. And it worked, not in all patients but in many..." https://t.co/uQbSjO9Wcc
The minimum daily dietary requirement of SFA is the same amount, 0g. It's hard to believe Kempner's legacy is being forgotten already. His diet, which was used to treat obesity, inter alia (https://t.co/7jeBjdWj6a), allowed for ad lib white sugar intake (https://t.co/Pg3QC7kaHB). https://t.co/p1xdVNezQ5
@JohnnyScott234 @hansen61028 @miguelthevegan "The diet provided ≈2000 calories per day." https://t.co/K6i3BawAvA
"Calorie intake is usually 2,000 to 2,400 calories daily." https://t.co/ZvtIQsfgqE
"The patient was immediately started on a 2400 calorie rice diet..."
https://t.co/xVFR4Znb76
@Tarunashree1 https://t.co/dJxKdg7PsD
Look at the history of Walter Kempner who commonly used fruit, rice and fruit juice to reverse type 2 diabetes and many other diseases !!!
RT @MajorGrubert: @mkj1928 @calleymeans @Jesse_Livermore "Klemmer, Philip & Grim, Clarence & Luft, Friedrich. (2014). Who and What Drove Wa…
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Toby-B
@MajorGrubert · X
@mkj1928 @calleymeans @Jesse_Livermore "Klemmer, Philip & Grim, Clarence & Luft, Friedrich. (2014). Who and What Drove Walter Kempner? The Rice Diet Revisited. Hypertension. 64.0.1161/HYPERTENSIONAHA.114.03946. "
There are no "decades of success with the Rice Clinic", nor does Kempner's diet reflect modern nutrition.
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Vegan
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@ScepticalDoctor @krosenque Whatever the merits of Kempner's work, his bio is certainly interesting! https://t.co/sSltr5WqpT
@ScepticalDoctor @ChefSuziGerber Kempner was breaking new ground at the time and it seems churlish to criticise him against modern standards.
He didn't do RCTs but his control group had a life expectancy of just 6 months so he saved far more lives than most of us ever will.
Doi:10.1161/hypertensionaha.114.03946 https://t.co/PYFwNXJH4y
@ScepticalDoctor Out of 192 patients, 25 died! Admittedly severe hypertension was more serious then, but if a doctor today had that kind of record there would at least be an inquiry. If they were a low -carb doctor & one patient died, there would likely be a hanging.
@lowcarblass @timspector @lowcarbGP Wendy maybe the issue was in the advice/counselling and follow up then?
Because we've known since the 1940's and Kempner's "Rice Diet" that low carb isn't the only route:
https://t.co/0j0t7Z41dr.
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper said, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
Can a lifestyle low in #salt, low in #protein, low in #fat, and high in complex carbohydrates treat #diabetes and other #AutoimmuneDisorders? Walter Kemper says, 'Yes!' https://t.co/ThQyJCfQIE
@mirvatalasnag @BenSaaud @CircAHA @ErinMichos @DBelardoMD @AnastasiaSMihai @JamalRanaMD @purviparwani @dramitkhera @DrPascalMeier @VDelgadoGarcia @SaDeRosa78 @KardiologieHH @georgehret @Hragy @Ed_Alania So, 22 year history of HTN and somehow, just 4 months of this highly cost effective interventions lowered BP by 12.5mmHg. Didn't Walter Kempner argue this back in the 1940s?!
https://t.co/bCs4N4pG6c
RT @KoushikReddyMD: Walter Kemper saw the value in lifestyle and diet in treating BP a long long time ago and he was able to produce result…
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Jeremy Loenneke
@jploenneke · X
Who and What Drove Walter Kempner?
The Rice Diet Revisited
Link: https://t.co/UGuD8Wc953 https://t.co/SXp615WPAo
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Koushik R. Reddy, MD, FACC, FACLM, DipABLM,LMI
@KoushikReddyMD · X
Walter Kemper saw the value in lifestyle and diet in treating BP a long long time ago and he was able to produce results such as these, using what he called the "rice diet"
https://t.co/Q5LOOtXEAa. https://t.co/qDVt7D2GwT
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Annie Leymarie
@AnnieLeymarie · X
@diervilla @1GarethWynJones @HairyBikers @ProfTimLang impact on nutritional medicine. There's a book about it (https://t.co/WTXet4nZMy) & plenty of articles, e.g. https://t.co/nDfhRQHRLy, https://t.co/eeKnddQH1r, https://t.co/v4e0amkilV etc
@TerryExSci @Dave06031956 @ScepticalDoctor @FoodFirst_Ty @neighborchick @JesseLunsford @AnsmithRD @AhmedKamel_RD2B Commentary on Kempner here. A character and idolised by Dr McDougall. https://t.co/Zi0U9q0xug
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Dj Solar
@SolarDnb · X
@vegsource @YoAtomic Article with references (I haven't checked those) says that Kempner's diet was ≈2000 calories for overweight diabetes patients.
https://t.co/tnCxKgSUvk
400 calories only seems very big restriction, I would be very hungry, if I would following that https://t.co/NXf35PQfdO
@notenoughtv @SBakerMD Assuming you can ever read, here the link to the literature from 1939 that I was bringing to Baker's attention:
https://t.co/1wtoDQRTzs
