W badaniu Genome Research "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture" na podstawie analizy chromosomu Y i mitochondrialnego DNA dowiedziono, że 8000 lat temu tylko 5-10% mężczyzn się rozmnażało. https://t.co/4p1eIBhmNE
A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture.
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Overall, the discussions demonstrate strong support for the idea that cultural changes have impacted male genetic diversity, with examples like references to the Karmin et al. (2015) study, mentions of societal structures such as 'bands of brothers hoarding women,' and debates about historical events like mass male kill-offs. The tone employs scientific language mixed with historical interpretations, highlighting the importance and relevance of the research to broader human history.
Most discussions concur with the idea that a genetic bottleneck is linked to cultural shifts, citing the study and reinforcing its findings.
Participants are highly interested, referencing detailed studies and engaging with complex concepts such as reproductive success and societal structures.
Many contributors delve into analysis, comment on historical implications, or critique the research methods, showing moderate depth.
The discussions reflect a recognition of the significance of this research in understanding human history and societal evolution.
Abstract in brief
- The study analyzes Y chromosome data from 456 diverse samples and estimates that the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) in Africa lived around 254,000 years ago, with a rapid spread of major non-African male lineages occurring between 47,000 and 52,000 years ago.
- Unlike mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), which shows a simple out-of-Africa migration pattern, the Y chromosome reveals a second significant bottleneck in the last 10,000 years, likely caused by cultural changes that influenced male reproductive success.
- These findings suggest that human male genetic diversity was shaped both by an initial rapid migration out of Africa and later cultural factors that impacted male lineages, highlighting complex demographic dynamics in recent human history.]
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@Ummo_Sciences @312_oay Selon l’étude de 2015, il semble que l’esclavage de l’Humanité et la castration des pré-adolescents aient concerné tous les continents de la Terre, de 8000 à 4000 ans av JC. Seule la religion juive aurait conservé la mémoire de ces pratiques (circoncision) https://t.co/w9vuzZhBcS
1) Karmin vd: https://t.co/i0GF3z26gH Wang vd: https://t.co/XESZufNJ9J 4) Labuda vd : https://t.co/BDiWwrDXvy Schacht ve Kramer: https://t.co/tBnEtbJ6o8 Lyman: https://t.co/81Ag9dStXP
1) Karmin vd: https://t.co/i0GF3z26gH Wang vd: https://t.co/XESZufNJ9J 4) Labuda vd : https://t.co/BDiWwrDXvy Schacht ve Kramer: https://t.co/tBnEtbJ6o8 Lyman: https://t.co/81Ag9dStXP
@VVincendon @paulg Yup, if you take the long view we've recently had /decreased/ variance. There have also been several Y population bottlenecks - in this most recent one 7,000 years ago only 1 man reproduced for every 17 woman. Crazy pants! https://t.co/9SpHzhXhpf
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@John581597 @CortesTrezoitao @R38TAO O termo é "gargalo genético do cromossomo Y" (Y-chromosome bottleneck). Um estudo chave é "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture" de Karmin et al. (2015), na Genome Research.
@PimPom93 @Neetkineeti @dr_Presun23 @mahatma_dobby @TARUNspeakss @NishanthNature Search https://t.co/uWGtv7UmpB though making things easy for you
@dondank69 @darwintojesus Karmin M, et al. A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture. Genome Res. 2015 Apr;25(4):459-66.
@dondank69 @darwintojesus For yDNA: Karmin M, et al. A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture. Genome Res. 2015 Apr;25(4):459-66.
@HoneyBadgerBite @DCDMANDEM @NirvanaClay @kula4488 Karmin et al. (2015): "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture" (Genome Research). Baumeister (2007): "Is There Anything Good About Men?" (invited address to the American Psychological Association).
@WuWei113 @Cobratate Monogamy wasn't natural for manking, we force it during neolithic era. AND there's proof in our DNA, we have more female ancestors than male. https://t.co/F49tTUcwX6 https://t.co/wK8dxoapM5
RT @PawelDSM: W badaniu Genome Research "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture" na podsta…
RT @PawelDSM: W badaniu Genome Research "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture" na podsta…
RT @PawelDSM: W badaniu Genome Research "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture" na podsta…
RT @PawelDSM: W badaniu Genome Research "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture" na podsta…
RT @PawelDSM: W badaniu Genome Research "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture" na podsta…
W badaniu Genome Research "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture" na podstawie analizy chromosomu Y i mitochondrialnego DNA dowiedziono, że 8000 lat temu tylko 5-10% mężczyzn się rozmnażało. https://t.co/4p1eIBhmNE
@SedlakJilji @strana_sas Tutok môžeš začat: https://t.co/JtvSF7mgKv
@johnhawks You cannot assume that the ratio of males to females will be balanced because there are sex-specific bottlenecks. https://t.co/X9Tr1dBGl5
@GustavoM13917 @porqueTTarg Cuellos de botella de la diversidad del cromosoma Y, con los que se infiere que efectivamente ha tenido menor éxito reproductivo. https://t.co/5aWWhH1UI4
There is strong evidence of a bottleneck in male genetic survivorship occurring due to social changes in ranges between 10,000 and as recently a few centuries ago. https://t.co/Kxa9Lmm1or https://t.co/OFeiPx5bzt https://t.co/zL02eAN9FY
1) Karmin vd: https://t.co/i0GF3z26gH Wang vd: https://t.co/XESZufNJ9J 4) Labuda vd : https://t.co/BDiWwrDXvy Schacht ve Kramer: https://t.co/tBnEtbJ6o8 Lyman: https://t.co/81Ag9dStXP
1) Karmin vd: https://t.co/i0GF3z26gH Wang vd: https://t.co/XESZufNJ9J 4) Labuda vd : https://t.co/BDiWwrDXvy Schacht ve Kramer: https://t.co/tBnEtbJ6o8 Lyman: https://t.co/81Ag9dStXP
Your own genetic code. When analyzing the genetics of any group of humans, you’ll find that they will have significantly more female ancestors than male ancestors. Many different resources but Karmin 2015 “A recent bottleneck of Y Chromosome diversity…” should do the trick.
https://t.co/irWDLZTnMX
@IncelsCo @autistocrates No. Women competed for the highest status men in nature just as they do today and most men in nature were slaves with no rights. Even incels easily forget how brutal and unforgiving nature is. https://t.co/ODG29Mraof https://t.co/tNeKn0MrBV
@autistocrates No. Women competed for the highest status men in nature just as they do today and most men in nature were slaves with no rights. Even incels easily forget how brutal and unforgiving nature is. https://t.co/ODG29Mraof https://t.co/tNeKn0MrBV
The problem I have with the model proposed in "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture" is that they don't go looking for the cultural hitchhiking. "bands of brothers hoarding women" as an organizing structure of society spread at https://t.co/xkLicNoeis
@NileshOak An incredibly insightful analysis—one that might even leave Monika Karmin impressed. https://t.co/1wYeOP26h1.
@LtAgosta https://t.co/xziBX19rs7
@Maggie_McNeill @CathyReisenwitz The origin of your fact is from the polygyny explanation for the results of this genetic study, https://t.co/7ZYy4lgI26, but other factors have been debated a lot since and are at least partially to blame, see https://t.co/hKuBYMeogF
https://t.co/JWWPZRp7fy
@Kaiser_Sousa_01 @AbrahamShepard @Sheesh128019 @LennisDynamiks @ThePolySolution @biblemarriages @chadnetw @IssaDegen @SamuelW59896506 @MeenJoeDeen @Ember_RC @BITCOINWIGGER I didn't use this source as it's too hard to accurately parse, and the method is a bit ambitious (probably not super accurate). But it's a neat visual. The labeling makes no sense. 50,000 kya there would be 50,000,000 (its 50kya). https://t.co/8OYF3EiZaU https://t.co/0xPMfjmuVg
う〜ん 女性の6割だとサピエンス滅びたかも
@CulioliX @OyagaaOomo @312_oay Lire cet article : https://t.co/wE0ubBOEKm https://t.co/IZIXpkf2Od
女って「子を持って自分の遺伝子が残せる」ことは当たり前で、その上で番う遺伝子の質とか産後受ける庇護についてぶーぶー文句を言ってるだけなんだけど、 男性からしたら子を持ち自分の遺伝子を残せること自体確率が低いので(参考:https://t.co/rwsYvEKRW2)、何贅沢言ってんだこいつとしかならんね
@CovfefeAnon https://t.co/XEDVZ3fCLU https://t.co/tNeKn0LTMn
@AdubColtsfan @robbswallace @JenResistedAGN A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture https://t.co/7bKwMPhotw
@OPOETA70352722 @Sr4mn @MMarcal91 @ojedabtc @Fachini_Fab https://t.co/7E26FWaNHa https://t.co/yTOjHcVCfJ Pesquisas que demonstram a menor variação genética do lado masculino e que sugerem uma taxa menor de reprodução de homens em relação a mulheres
Creationist Pieter Borger is weer aan het liegen. "Y-Adam" en "mtDNA Eva" leefden niet beiden rond 10,000 jaar geleden. Y-Adam: 200,000 tot 300,000 jaar geleden mtDNA Eva: 155,000 jaar geleden Bronnen: https://t.co/98oWi6ijkh https://t.co/BTXOTlohZl https://t.co/VSaccoLhD8
@Andrew33613186 @NotEvolution1 Karmin, M., et al. 2015. "A Recent Bottleneck of Y Chromosome Diversity Coincides with a Global Change in Culture." Genome Res. 25(4):459–466. Jeanson, N.T., et al. 2022. “ Traced, Human DNA’s Big Surprise.” Mast Bks
@Vinotintox100 @AiG The article is “A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture” by Karmin et al (2015). There you can see the method they used to date it at 254 (95% CI 192-307) kya. Feel free to publish a paper disagreeing if you do - peer review!
@Ummo_Sciences @312_oay Selon l’étude de 2015, il semble que l’esclavage de l’Humanité et la castration des pré-adolescents aient concerné tous les continents de la Terre, de 8000 à 4000 ans av JC. Seule la religion juive aurait conservé la mémoire de ces pratiques (circoncision) https://t.co/w9vuzZhBcS
@eigenrobot @YurianStonebow It's been known there was a mass kill-off of men around 4kya. "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture." Very bloody. https://t.co/3yzbr7SzCe https://t.co/RIOZHQ0Z7C
これ、記事以後の他機関による研究やゲノムリサーチ紙に発表以後の追研究動静待ち のまんま時間が経過してたと思うんですがどうだったんでしょ https://t.co/dPtVeD8XJo https://t.co/ChieYOBAd8 https://t.co/c9aX9HROUj
@lkasfjkjlh53425 @CovfefeAnon @theantiherokate "a recent bottleneck of y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture"
RT @project_bbb: 参考文献︰ A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture https://t.co/tq57WsCpXF
参考文献︰ A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture https://t.co/tq57WsCpXF
@RiderMaelstrom @ElonBachman @KirkegaardEmil Here's the full paper https://t.co/fB0s37kjRM
Few of her most Significant contributions: a) A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture. (Genome research, 2015). https://t.co/gFUZwuxdOa
b) A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture. (Genome research, 2015). https://t.co/gFUZwuxdOa
@thechudbucket https://t.co/fB0s37kjRM
Some of her significant contributions are: a) A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture. https://t.co/rVeL73koli
A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture https://t.co/GY39ypQeoq https://t.co/1YaIsvI7vN
@catgirl_cafe https://t.co/yeB3FOXoVi
RT @aaotaibe: @ZainabAlmutairi ومن قال اني ابحث عن الجين الإبراهيمي عند NCBI؟ المهم NCBIتوضح تتبع y السلاله y https://t.co/dJNPneICWE ال…
@_Atlas_Smugged_ @CovfefeAnon Source: https://t.co/yeB3FOXoVi
@infospreads https://t.co/fB0s37BUJk
RT @CovfefeAnon: @altweltaffe @ElonBachman From this paper https://t.co/fB0s37kjRM
@altweltaffe @ElonBachman From this paper https://t.co/fB0s37kjRM
are you okay Heteros ? https://t.co/7VscjKhVwW
@NiccolozWenecji @kobiecosc_ @michal_foit @TheChos73351951 @Szarlotttta Ty, owszem, nie rozumiesz, to badanie nie potwierdza tez jakie stawiasz: https://t.co/YsgFkunC1K może naucz się podstaw statystycznych? Jak choćby różnicy między korelacją, a przyczynowością?
@NiccolozWenecji @kobiecosc_ @michal_foit @KasiaModra @TheChos73351951 @Szarlotttta https://t.co/YsgFkunC1K to badanie nie potwierdza twoich tez, gdybys przeczytał je ze zrozumieniem u źródła, a nie musiał szukać opracowań dla mniej lotnych, to bys wiedział :D
@kobiecosc_ @NiccolozWenecji @michal_foit @TheChos73351951 @Szarlotttta https://t.co/YsgFkunC1K trzymaj, bo od tego tytana intelektu nic nie dostaniemy. Badania na jakie się powołuje absolutnie nie potwierdzają jego tezy.
@frogopepe @Bane_Pilled https://t.co/ZLrjFC99Lh
@PastBurden https://t.co/fB0s37kjRM
Y sobre la última parte -https://t.co/nUFV0i65vK -https://t.co/se5rods7iI Los papers sobre las diferencias en las sociedades igualitarias -https://t.co/3gqeZMcbF2 Hombres que reportan un bajo o nulo acceso al sexo -https://t.co/LsIWzyffVi Cuello de botella genético.
@_alice_evans Do you have a view of... <https://t.co/Mg9uvcrPrG> <https://t.co/vRvofmVRLO> <https://t.co/ZIXvTAkuwb>? https://t.co/3eg3wmVxbB
エストニアのタルトゥ大学2015年の論文(なんのこっちゃ) 女性17人に対して、自身のDNAを伝えることができた男性はたったの1人だった https://t.co/3cmlcK2smE
A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture https://t.co/Eu5j17BY1T
@thespartaNeer @TheOnionGod @ravitjaffe @queenjo102 @dana_tenenbaum @KarenLHaber @BarakKrenzler @Ein_ZoAgada 1. עלייה מדורגת בהכרח יוצרת אירועי פתע (בגלל טופוגרפיה) 2. לא הבנתי מה הנקודה שלך פה. אכן מדובר ביישובים עתיקים 3. מוזמן לקרוא פה, אשמח לשמוע את דעתך https://t.co/s6w82BSGVt
@VVincendon @paulg Yup, if you take the long view we've recently had /decreased/ variance. There have also been several Y population bottlenecks - in this most recent one 7,000 years ago only 1 man reproduced for every 17 woman. Crazy pants! https://t.co/9SpHzhXhpf
@reachtarunhere lmk what you find out https://t.co/W3OOj5qAiA
The most impactful event in modern human history just dropped here. Near-east and Caucasus men killed nearly all the rest (didn't bother with Africans) 4 thousand years ago, keeping the women for themselves. Men of other races that survived had improved. https://t.co/1wwNGlBUJR https://t.co/KvfFlzYDeA
Source for the graphic in the first tweet: https://t.co/fB0s37kjRM
@armandblanquet https://t.co/fB0s37BUJk
@anony47534 @spikeinthemidge @scienceFTW4 @AiG This? Have you spotted the pattern yet? Would you accept this one for critique? https://t.co/KopF8C91V3
@knigthwolf1x @DanReView99 @EsDePagafantas Si crees que tinder no es suficiente argumento, aquí te va un estudio de como valoran hombres y mujeres el sexo opuesto. https://t.co/dz8AGzl75n
@LucianaaMdzp @LycanLord1 @cjxxxx_ @theheroe1 @leocapo_ Estudios genéticos prueban un cuello de botella en el éxito reproductivo en detrimento de los hombres con respecto a las mujeres: https://t.co/Kjt8gDVjKl
@AJE68207283 @MikeAla45885103 @sleepyjoe2 @AiG This paper is written by an evolutionist who cannot explain for the genetic bottleneck that happened approx 10k years ago. The Bible has an answer for it. https://t.co/lpTMU2j8K2
@NileshOak Found it! https://t.co/sk04BYgw6O The abstract sounds funny though! "We hypothesize that this bottleneck is caused by cultural changes affecting variance of reproductive success among males."
RT @GReplier: @asaokitan ミトコンドリア・イヴは14~29万年前(https://t.co/4b49gsbgOz )、Y染色体アダムは25(95 % CIで19~31)万年前(https://t.co/bdddSoaHAV )とか29(95 % CIで2…
@asaokitan ミトコンドリア・イヴは14~29万年前(https://t.co/4b49gsbgOz )、Y染色体アダムは25(95 % CIで19~31)万年前(https://t.co/bdddSoaHAV )とか29(95 % CIで25~34)万年前(https://t.co/Fe7ph63Khb )とかで、どちらも同じくらい昔の人ということらしいです。(続)
@GalileePeenut @tjoseph0010 @ProfVemsani @Vidyagauri Kindly refer to this study by Monika Karmin for your answers: https://t.co/OpTSrv41EV
[hal-02112784] A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture by Monika Karmin et al. https://t.co/aI5wj5Skx6
The effective breeding female-to-male ratio over the last 150 thousand years. A peak of 17 to 1 is visible around 5000 BC! Source: A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture https://t.co/3TYGNHmCkK
“A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture.” https://t.co/48xqvxi9wQ
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