The digital discussions predominantly support the article's message, with many referencing Gigerenzer's work and emphasizing how statistical illiteracy among physicians and patients can lead to serious health misjudgments. The tone and words such as 'jaw-dropping,' 'essential,' and references to concepts like false positives and probabilistic understanding underscore their recognition of the article’s impactful contribution to improving health literacy and decision-making.
AgreementStrong agreement
Most discussions emphasize the importance of understanding health statistics and recognize the value of the article, often endorsing Gigerenzer's expertise.
InterestHigh interest
Posts show high curiosity and engagement, referencing detailed concepts like Bayesian reasoning and statistical literacy.
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Several comments engage deeply by citing specific studies, authors, and examples of statistical misunderstandings among doctors and the public.
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The discussions highlight how the publication influences perceptions of medical decision-making and statistical comprehension, suggesting high significance.
Abstract in brief
Many healthcare stakeholders, including doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians, lack a proper understanding of health statistics, leading to misinterpretations and potentially harmful decisions.
Statistical illiteracy is often caused by how information is presented, sometimes intentionally manipulated, and is influenced by emotional relationships and conflicts of interest within the healthcare system.
Improving statistical literacy, transparency in communication, and addressing emotional and systemic factors are necessary steps to ensure better decision-making and protect public health.]
Sim. Inclusive pra quem se interessar, recomendação de leitura:
Dec 31, 2024 · 30 likes · 3 shares · 17,960 followersView post →
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Khalifah Al Thiab
@KhalifahAlThiab · X
المقال المرفق والمحاضرة لنفس البروفيسور
كل من #الممارس_الصحي والمريض والإعلام قد لا يفهمون أرقام الدراسات جيدا أو قد ينخدعون بها لأنها مكتوبة بطريقة خادعة
أنصح الجميع و بشدة أنه يطلع على المقال و المحاضرة
#صيدلة
#طب
#رزدينسي
https://t.co/sVdJ7PXgst
https://t.co/zKNuveH0N4
Jan 31, 2020 · 11 likes · 1 share · 5,767 followersView post →
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Science of Boosting
@ScienceBoosting · X
Many doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians do not understand health statistics & draw wrong conclusions without noticing it. This review paper shows how to #boost statistical literacy in the #health domain. Learn more: https://t.co/v9QIFrgnUC #ScienceofBoosting
Feb 21, 2022 · 11 likes · 5 shares · 407 followersView post →
@whstancil @besttrousers Having a degree doesn't mean you understand statistics. Doctors have degrees, too, but the majority of them can't do a simple Bayes theorem exercise.
https://t.co/ioDrsIpYD6
Jan 24, 2024 · 10 likes · 1 share · 13,538 followersView post →
Many healthcare stakeholders lack proper understanding of health statistics, leading to misinterpretations and harmful decisions. Improving statistical literacy and transparency is essential for informed choices and…
9 out of 10 recommend this episode. We discuss how data manipulation can lead to misconceptions, especially in health statistics, emphasizing the need for better statistical literacy and transparency to support informed…
@JuanGrvas Mi comentario viene a cuento de algunos datos proporcionados en este famoso artículo de hace ya algunos años. Se ilustraban algunos ejemplos para subrayar la importancia del alfabetismo estadístico
https://t.co/ztjdRtLPkb
Feb 23, 2025 · 1 like · 1,166 followersView post →
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limitado pelo nyquist
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RT @vitorborin_: Sim. Inclusive pra quem se interessar, recomendação de leitura:
Dec 31, 2024 · 3 shares · 145 followersView post →
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Cogita Tuti
@CogitaTuti · X
RT @vitorborin_: Sim. Inclusive pra quem se interessar, recomendação de leitura:
Dec 31, 2024 · 3 shares · 3,038 followersView post →
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Francinaldo Rafael
@FrancinaldoRafa · X
RT @vitorborin_: Sim. Inclusive pra quem se interessar, recomendação de leitura:
Dec 31, 2024 · 3 shares · 975 followersView post →
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Vitor Borin P. de Souza
@vitorborin_ · X
Sim. Inclusive pra quem se interessar, recomendação de leitura:
Dec 31, 2024 · 30 likes · 3 shares · 17,960 followersView post →
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Irregular expression
@Michalek__ · X
@TCzajka @jeremykauffman It wouldn't change the outcome much :) The very similar results (21% of correct answers) were obtained by https://t.co/Mj8zMnb52A where false positive rate were given.
@Andercot This study contains some interesting findings related to probabilistic understanding among physicians: https://t.co/b7OoYlNZzN
It unfortunately doesn't paint a rosy picture.
The results of this one are not that bad, but it assessed physicians in Germany:
https://t.co/qmJ4X9AqN2
@whstancil @besttrousers Having a degree doesn't mean you understand statistics. Doctors have degrees, too, but the majority of them can't do a simple Bayes theorem exercise.
https://t.co/ioDrsIpYD6
Jan 24, 2024 · 10 likes · 1 share · 13,538 followersView post →
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mireillemoret
@mireillemoret · X
@RobertJBateman Yes it does: https://t.co/I8Qu9akWak
@GrumpyOldDoc @jneill @JuliaHB1 @KatyMcconkey Most doctors know almost nothing about statistical decision theory, although that is what they are trying to do much of the time.
https://t.co/Kf4fYCJcj9
@EduEngineer DTF certainly isn't alone, putting it mildly. Gigerenzer has been studying statistical reasoning since 1995 or so with a special emphasis on those in the medical profession. Some of it is absolutely jaw dropping. From 2007, https://t.co/TIwd0hlfgO ..
@ProfessorAkston Gerd Gigerenzer, et al, https://t.co/WdeTC52kaq (Interestingly, Gigerenzer elsewhere attacks the specific T&K's "Linda" fallacy on the basis of representativeness, not on people's inability to draw a Venn diagram.)
RT @ScienceBoosting: Check out one of the key review papers in the field on #boosting statistical literacy “Helping doctors and patients ma…
May 25, 2022 · 2 shares · 137 followersView post →
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Science of Boosting
@ScienceBoosting · X
Check out one of the key review papers in the field on #boosting statistical literacy “Helping doctors and patients make sense of health statistics” by Gerd Gigerenzer, Wolfgang Gaissmaier, Elke Kurz-Milcke, Lisa M. Schwartz and Steven Woloshin. https://t.co/v9QIFqYN34 1/2
May 13, 2022 · 6 likes · 2 shares · 407 followersView post →
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Koenfucius
@koenfucius · X
Statistical illiteracy is widespread among patients and physicians, resulting from unintentional or deliberate nontransparent framing of information and can have serious consequences for health. Gigerenzer et al have help for doctors and patients: https://t.co/ZcTgWunDJg https://t.co/9YRtdRf9TG
Feb 25, 2022 · 7 likes · 1 share · 8,589 followersView post →
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cirujano de cuello
@alvarosanabria · X
RT @ScienceBoosting: Many doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians do not understand health statistics & draw wrong conclusions with…
Feb 23, 2022 · 5 shares · 1,142 followersView post →
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Center for Applied Behavioral Science (CABS)
@CABS_MDRC · X
RT @ScienceBoosting: Many doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians do not understand health statistics & draw wrong conclusions with…
Feb 22, 2022 · 5 shares · 3,060 followersView post →
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Kat Rays
@OneOfTheAbove1 · X
RT @ScienceBoosting: Many doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians do not understand health statistics & draw wrong conclusions with…
RT @ScienceBoosting: Many doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians do not understand health statistics & draw wrong conclusions with…
Feb 21, 2022 · 5 shares · 1,925 followersView post →
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Stefan Herzog - @stefanherzog@fediscience.org
@stefanmherzog · X
RT @ScienceBoosting: Many doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians do not understand health statistics & draw wrong conclusions with…
Feb 21, 2022 · 5 shares · 968 followersView post →
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Science of Boosting
@ScienceBoosting · X
Many doctors, patients, journalists, and politicians do not understand health statistics & draw wrong conclusions without noticing it. This review paper shows how to #boost statistical literacy in the #health domain. Learn more: https://t.co/v9QIFrgnUC #ScienceofBoosting
Feb 21, 2022 · 11 likes · 5 shares · 407 followersView post →
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Hoa Paul Duong
@EconMcCausland · X
Helping Doctors and Patients Make Sense of Health Statistics - Gerd Gigerenzer, Wolfgang Gaissmaier, Elke Kurz-Milcke, Lisa M. Schwartz, Steven Woloshin, 2007 https://t.co/AQl7yRuk4K
Feb 14, 2022 · 8 shares · 408 followersView post →
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Robin Dart
@rjcdart · X
@Y_ECCO_IBD @GianlucaPellino @SamaanMark @bverstockt @MondayNightIBD @my_ueg @DCharabaty @HedinCharlotte @me4_so @some4ibd @YouESCP @BettenworthDb @ChristianSelin3 @MishaKabir1 @drlauriekeefer @charlielees @charlie_lees @Gastro_GRJ @CrohnsColitisFn @CrohnsColitisUK A6/4
There are lots of statistics available, but how do population studies apply to the individual? How do you contextualize these and explain them to patients? What does a 1/1000 chance mean? How can you and your patient navigate statistics.
https://t.co/LeW1wLfGa4
Feb 14, 2022 · 8 likes · 8 shares · 595 followersView post →
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Rafael Bravo
@rafabravo · X
@davserantes Para la resolución de tus preguntas tambien se puede recurrir a los valores predictivos (es lo que preguntas) con frecuencias naturales, hay autores que piensan que son mas intuitivos y fáciles de aplicar https://t.co/ydkFgycKTg paginas 55 y 56
RT @AesSecretaria: Lo "antiguo" también hay que revisarlo, en el "ahora": Gigerenzer G, Gaissmaier W, Kurz-Milcke E, et al. "Helping Doctor…
Feb 7, 2021 · 3 shares · 25,725 followersView post →
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Dpto Economía Aplicada UGR
@EcoUgr · X
RT @AesSecretaria: Lo "antiguo" también hay que revisarlo, en el "ahora": Gigerenzer G, Gaissmaier W, Kurz-Milcke E, et al. "Helping Doctor…
Feb 7, 2021 · 3 shares · 1,939 followersView post →
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Manuel Ruiz-Adame
@ManuelRuizAdame · X
Helping Doctors and Patients Make Sense of Health Statistics - Gerd Gigerenzer, Wolfgang Gaissmaier, Elke Kurz-Milcke, Lisa M. Schwartz, Steven Woloshin, 2007
Vía: @AesSecretaria https://t.co/WOI6H89QWS
RT @AesSecretaria: Lo "antiguo" también hay que revisarlo, en el "ahora": Gigerenzer G, Gaissmaier W, Kurz-Milcke E, et al. "Helping Doctor…
Feb 7, 2021 · 3 shares · 6,450 followersView post →
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Sergio G. Vicente
@sergiogvicente · X
Por una parte la conoceréis pero por otra... excelente referencia para ayer, hoy y, mañana!! Gigerenzer G, Gaissmaier W et al. "Helping Doctors and Patients Make Sense of Health Statistics". Psychol Sci Public Interest. 2007 Nov;8(2):53-96. https://t.co/sTPny3HzJP @SAGEPublishers https://t.co/YR1flVctam
Feb 7, 2021 · 2 likes · 1,559 followersView post →
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AlexVoxlin
@Alex_Voxlin · X
@suspendedJoey @vrisoren https://t.co/zk5KHWY8Ej
Det borde fler läsa/få förklarat
https://t.co/dU54xeVIbp
Den är mycket bra. Lång. Men en del saker är väldigt enkla att förstå.
Ursäkta länkar men det är kul när fler är intresserade!
Creo que lo inicio Gigerenzer, allá por el año 95 y en el articulo Helping Doctors and Patients
Make Sense of Health Statistics https://t.co/v8eCTmiLPd esta estupendamente explicado, https://t.co/AlXgTHHJXu
May 19, 2020 · 2 likes · 1 share · 16,968 followersView post →
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A. CRÉTAL
@Osteopathe44 · X
@MKDEabh @joshlavalleeMK @AdrienPallot Clair, clair... Tout est relatif :)
https://t.co/EckmME9be2
Ça reste quand même assez nébuleux de prime abord. Mais j'adore cet article de Gerd Gigerenzer.
Ovo bi zapravo trebalo da postoji na studijama novinarstva i da cilj bude statističko opismenjavanje, pa makar literatura bila samo ovaj jedan članak:
https://t.co/UimGJmSFgp https://t.co/5bUDNguIL0
Mar 19, 2020 · 7 likes · 1 share · 762 followersView post →
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Sitah Alzuman
@SAlzuman · X
RT @KhalifahAlThiab: المقال المرفق والمحاضرة لنفس البروفيسور
كل من #الممارس_الصحي والمريض والإعلام قد لا يفهمون أرقام الدراسات جيدا أو قد ي…
Feb 1, 2020 · 1 share · 1,288 followersView post →
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Khalifah Al Thiab
@KhalifahAlThiab · X
المقال المرفق والمحاضرة لنفس البروفيسور
كل من #الممارس_الصحي والمريض والإعلام قد لا يفهمون أرقام الدراسات جيدا أو قد ينخدعون بها لأنها مكتوبة بطريقة خادعة
أنصح الجميع و بشدة أنه يطلع على المقال و المحاضرة
#صيدلة
#طب
#رزدينسي
https://t.co/sVdJ7PXgst
https://t.co/zKNuveH0N4
Jan 31, 2020 · 11 likes · 1 share · 5,767 followersView post →
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Carlos Coscollar
@Carcos2 · X
@rafabravo Pues me voy a animar a poner otro más. Del 2008: "Ayuda a los doctores y a los pacientes, a dar sentido a las estadísticas de salud". Y lo hace muy bien https://t.co/rfUz5xpqHn Algunos ejemplos, son esclarecedores, casi iniciáticos. Para médicos en formación, muy útil https://t.co/0eOrZEHD8s
Helping Doctors and Patients Make Sense of Health Statistics. HIV test. Population low prevalence. The chance of infection can be as low as 50% when a man tests positive in screening.
Con baja prevalencia, el 50% de los análisis positivos será falso.
https://t.co/10qNsr27g2
Jun 11, 2019 · 1 like · 22,495 followersView post →
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Juan Gérvas
@JuanGrvas · X
Due to a very low base rate in the order of 1 in 10,000 among heterosexual men with low-risk behavior, the chance of infection can be as low as 50% when a man tests positive in screening.
Con baja prevalencia, el 50% de los análisis positivos será falso.
https://t.co/10qNsr27g2
@COREIMpodcast Important concept. This reminds me of Gerd Gigerenzer's old paper on how performance at statistics can improve if people learn to transition from relative (e.g. percentages) to absolute (e.g. ratios) values and back succesfully.
https://t.co/JAOFawemOV
@stdebove Gerd Gigerenzer, le directeur de mon labo, au Max Planck Institut for Human Development, ainsi qu’une bonne partie de mes collègues... y’a du monde autour de moi sur ce thème... par exemple : https://t.co/cyGqNyXdq2
Feb 16, 2019 · 3 likes · 36,058 followersView post →
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