Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the discovery suggests baleen whales may have evolved earlier and more gradually than previously thought https://t.co/3Ofe3bHxIF #biologyletters https://t.co/OX8X5bfTFU
Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought.
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The group overall shows strong agreement with the article’s findings, supported by references to fossil discoveries like the 26-meter blue whale from Italy, and sentiments indicating the findings could reshape scientific views on whale gigantism. Posts use enthusiastic and technical language, reflecting high interest and deep engagement, emphasizing the importance of the early evolution of giant baleen whales and their ecological role.
Most discussions support the idea that baleen whales reached enormous sizes earlier than previous research suggested.
Many comments express high curiosity and excitement about the new fossil evidence and its implications.
Participants cite specific fossil discoveries, compare sizes, and debate evolutionary theories, showing deep involvement.
The discussions highlight a significant shift in understanding whale evolution, suggesting a reevaluation of marine ecosystem history and macroevolutionary patterns.
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- The discovery of a 26-meter blue whale fossil from the Early Pleistocene in Italy indicates that baleen whales, or mysticetes, reached giant sizes earlier than previously believed, with some large mysticetes existing since the Late Miocene.
- The study challenges the idea that whale gigantism was a recent development linked to a PlioPleistocene shift, suggesting instead that large mysticetes have been influencing marine ecosystems for a longer period, possibly since the Miocene.
- This research emphasizes the importance of macroevolutionary modeling to understand whale size evolution, revealing that the timing of giant size emergence in baleen whales may have occurred earlier or not at all, impacting how we view their role in marine ecosystems over time.]
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Most liked on X and BlueskyThe earliest blue whale skeleton was just uncovered in the Mediterranean from 1.5 million years ago, and it was just as big (26 m, 85 ft) as the biggest seen nowadays in the North Atlantic https://t.co/OnUHND3RLx paper: https://t.co/0SaSjKNCi9 HT @SamuelDunford https://t.co/4ukP3pV4ve
On the other hand, it makes this point about baleen whale's evolution towards gigantism, which is undermined by the more recent study where the inclusion of the recently discovered blue whale from the ... https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR https://t.co/npp7ty3VJ8
Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the discovery suggests baleen whales may have evolved earlier and more gradually than previously thought https://t.co/3Ofe3bHxIF #biologyletters https://t.co/zGnVQo7QDL
In time for #FossilFriday and reporting on the largest whale fossil ever described, #BiologyLetters researchers demonstrate that baleen whale gigantism may have occurred earlier and more gradually than previously thought - https://t.co/raCZFLxKAT #palaeontology #Miocene https://t.co/Ta9gxjmPET
The discovery of the largest whale fossil ever described suggests that gigantic whales may have helped to shape the ocean ecosystem for much longer than previously thought. #BiologyLetters - https://t.co/raCZFLxKAT https://t.co/xdwthE4xQe
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@EverWyrmmess @TheCorvidCorner Sources: Kallal et. al study (7m juvenile bite mark on adult whale): https://t.co/T2zeFjWTpb Prehistoric whales the size of modern ones existing since the late Miocene: https://t.co/fEBPDVNdtT
@TheCorvidCorner @EverWyrmmess According to Bianucci et. al 2019, large modern sized whales have existed since the Late Miocene. Paper: https://t.co/fEBPDVNdtT Additionally Purdy et. al 1996 mentioned the dentition and jaws being able to mortally wound and kill a fin or blue whale.
@V2manburu Actually, here is the paper: https://t.co/fEBPDVNdtT "Nevertheless, maximum body size increased steadily, and reached essentially modern levels by the Middle–Late Miocene." "Large-sized mysticetes comparable to most extant species have existed since at least the Late Miocene"
@Hidet0shi1 @ausar_the (I've been havign a lot of opportunities to discuss this recently). There's actually growing evidence that there may have not been a mode-shift in maximum size for baleen whales, rather there was a shift in minimum and median size. https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR
@bluewhalenews One that comes to mind is the precise details on mating behavior Another would be whether there size was actually contingent on upwellings or if it were rorquals of their unique size was ''inevitable'' as it were? https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR
On the other hand, it makes this point about baleen whale's evolution towards gigantism, which is undermined by the more recent study where the inclusion of the recently discovered blue whale from the ... https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR https://t.co/npp7ty3VJ8
@TrashNewt @arvalis @jimmadseni @StyledApe @indianloonie Forgot to add this too. Recent fossil evidence suggesting that there may have been no mode shift in the maximum size within Mysticetes, but rathe upwellings skewed the minimum and median sizes. https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR
@TalesofKaimere @K_goosinton @StyledApe Also there's debate on whether suggesting that upwellings may have only led to the predominance of large whales, rather than their existence. https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR
@RaptorX863 @TalesofKaimere @StyledApe Ehh, there's still debate on the precise timing of mode shift in their maximum size. https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR
Much more massive than any dino, are the mighty whales. Many fossil whales were smaller than the ones we have now, but we do have fossils of: The Blue Whale! Bianucci & co. described the largest blue whale found so far - 85 feet long, from Italy: https://t.co/PTjD0ZVGUs
@dino_magenta @thecuriousone06 @LazulliLua @dengists That thinking may have been debunked to an extent. While the average sizes of whales may have changed recently, sizes comparable to the largest extant whales may have existed since before the Megalodon extinction https://t.co/HHpXQd4wqR
RT @RSocPublishing: In time for #FossilFriday and reporting on the largest whale fossil ever described, #BiologyLetters researchers demonst…
In time for #FossilFriday and reporting on the largest whale fossil ever described, #BiologyLetters researchers demonstrate that baleen whale gigantism may have occurred earlier and more gradually than previously thought - https://t.co/raCZFLxKAT #palaeontology #Miocene https://t.co/Ta9gxjmPET
RT @Leotrex444: Un video genial para conocer mas informacion del megalodon. https://t.co/oLhMh9DBay
Un video genial para conocer mas informacion del megalodon. https://t.co/oLhMh9DBay
Key ecosystem engineers, large baleen whales may have been around for over 3 million years https://t.co/k0b3Unjjm8 https://t.co/Hq3TWyob8J
Don't know how I missed this one, if it came out a few months earlier I would have cited it! Baleen whales may have gotten huge earlier than thought https://t.co/NWQnahhTHF
RT @RSocPublishing: The discovery of the largest whale fossil ever described suggests that gigantic whales may have helped to shape the oce…
RT @RSocPublishing: The discovery of the largest whale fossil ever described suggests that gigantic whales may have helped to shape the oce…
RT @RSocPublishing: The discovery of the largest whale fossil ever described suggests that gigantic whales may have helped to shape the oce…
The discovery of the largest whale fossil ever described suggests that gigantic whales may have helped to shape the ocean ecosystem for much longer than previously thought. #BiologyLetters - https://t.co/raCZFLxKAT https://t.co/xdwthE4xQe
RT @paleont_kt: 推定全長26mとなるクジラ化石を発見、という記事がナショジオさんに→ https://t.co/lNR7EtMpbX 。更新世前期のもの、と。論文はこれかな(英語ですが無料)→ https://t.co/jwlmBEn8UE 。
RT @paleont_kt: 推定全長26mとなるクジラ化石を発見、という記事がナショジオさんに→ https://t.co/lNR7EtMpbX 。更新世前期のもの、と。論文はこれかな(英語ですが無料)→ https://t.co/jwlmBEn8UE 。
推定全長26mとなるクジラ化石を発見、という記事がナショジオさんに→ https://t.co/lNR7EtMpbX 。更新世前期のもの、と。論文はこれかな(英語ですが無料)→ https://t.co/jwlmBEn8UE 。
https://t.co/zldTOUfq8s Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought.
In time for #FossilFriday and reporting on the largest whale fossil ever described, #BiologyLetters researchers demonstrate that baleen whale gigantism may have occurred earlier and more gradually than previously thought - https://t.co/raCZFLxKAT https://t.co/aT3Q8RepRx
Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought. https://t.co/ddr1ZCo8Ja
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the discovery suggests baleen whales may have evolved earlier and more gradually than previously thought https://t.co/3Ofe3bHxIF #biologyletters https://t.co/OX8X5bfTFU
RT @geocappiello: Published #1May 2019 The largest whale fossil ever described: an italian Early Pleistocene Bianucci G. et al. "Rise of…
Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought | Biology Letters https://t.co/iCZhEO6SEm
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @bluewhalenews: The earliest blue whale skeleton was just uncovered in the Mediterranean from 1.5 million years ago, and it was just as…
Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought | Biology Letters https://t.co/lBzdpvnJUW
RT @mcavallo78: This is Giuliana the blue whale from #Matera (#Italy) with an estimated body length of 23.4–26.1 m. Happy to see the dese…
Published #1May 2019 The largest whale fossil ever described: an italian Early Pleistocene Bianucci G. et al. "Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought" in Biology Letters v.15 n.15 https://t.co/yBRRSwmsIo #paleontology #fossils #fossilfriday https://t.co/mjwX3ABrWT
Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought | Biology Letters https://t.co/bkg75ealyi
Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought | Biology Letters https://t.co/mdsqcbqN4o
Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought | Biology Letters https://t.co/1NhpToM2Xn
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
This is Giuliana the blue whale from #Matera (#Italy) with an estimated body length of 23.4–26.1 m. Happy to see the deserved acknowledgement to @renatosartini "for his efforts in bringing the Matera whale to our attention" (ref. https://t.co/vvQoYstdTQ). https://t.co/9DjvXKZFui
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
RT @royalsociety: Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the d…
これまでで最大のクジラの化石(更新世初期)がイタリアで発見された。体長は推定で最大26 mになる。Rise of the titans: baleen whales became giants earlier than thought https://t.co/V0wHjaT7Ne
Scientists describe a blue whale fossil from Southern Italy thought to be 1.5 million years old. At 26 metres long, the discovery suggests baleen whales may have evolved earlier and more gradually than previously thought https://t.co/3Ofe3bHxIF #biologyletters https://t.co/zGnVQo7QDL
The earliest blue whale skeleton was just uncovered in the Mediterranean from 1.5 million years ago, and it was just as big (26 m, 85 ft) as the biggest seen nowadays in the North Atlantic https://t.co/OnUHND3RLx paper: https://t.co/0SaSjKNCi9 HT @SamuelDunford https://t.co/4ukP3pV4ve
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