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The discussions highlight varying opinions on Ancel Keys' influence in public health and nutrition. For instance, some participants criticize views opposing Keys by emphasizing the importance of scientific accuracy, while others express disappointment over misinformation surrounding his work. Phrases like 'debunking Gary Taubes' and 'a carefully constructed narrative' illustrate the polarized views on both Keys and his critics, contributing to a tone of urgency and skepticism.
The discussions show mixed reactions towards the views about Ancel Keys, reflecting both support and criticism of his methodologies.
Many participants express a moderate level of interest, although some indicated strong feelings about the controversy surrounding Keys and his research.
Numerous discussions engage with various perspectives on Keys' impact, though not all demonstrate deep analysis. Some users challenged popular narratives or shared supportive views.
Posts generally perceive the article's impact to be significant enough to warrant discussion but vary in their assessments of Keys' actual contributions.
Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinformation has done to some of his patients. So the fam was patient while I dropped back, recorded a few lines, and ran to catch up. https://t.co/8lx0zXJXxu
Et enfin Gary Taubes apparaît aussi, débunké ici : https://t.co/ve3ONub6Wa Ah là là.... Moi qui voulais simplement visiter un musée.... Il a fallu un partenariat @ARTEfr du @Mucem au milieu !!!
"Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or financial gain often have, amounts to either investigative incompetence or plain dishonesty at the edge of scientific fraud." Well put. https://t.co/Ra7JF3nBV6
Another day, another outrageous claim about Ancel Keys. Let's spread some appreciation for Ancel Keys! https://t.co/ZnEZvPaIyd https://t.co/kUFvHfXT53
Présenter Keys comme une totale fraude et dire que les données sont invalides est faux : la corrélation est toujours valide en incluant les 22 pays dont les données étaient présentées : https://t.co/4vyaLSZWLd ⬇️
@GardnerPhD Dr. Diamond pushed back and asked me to respond, especially to his recent anti-statin talks. So I did and I think this episode is more important than the first: https://t.co/8lx0zXJXxu
Ancel Keys was a prominent figure in physiology and public health, known for his groundbreaking research linking cholesterol levels to heart disease. This video critically examines the recent debates surrounding Gary…
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Follow Dr. David Diamond’s lecture on how food myths spread and the importance of fact-checking in nutrition. This discussion highlights critical research, including Ancel Keys' contributions to dietary guidelines and…
In this video, we delve into the spread of nutrition misinformation, particularly focusing on Dr. David Diamond's stance on low carbohydrate diets and statin therapy. His perspectives challenge traditional guidelines…
@Drlipid @garytaubes Please consider adding this to your knowledge base from @VivaLongevity https://t.co/VaUGuIjBSf
@bigfatsurprise Gary Taubes debunked https://t.co/TtJv5PwDkz
@RobertKennedyJr You desperately need some additional perspectives on this topic. Please do what you say you will do and listent to other opinions as well. Start with these by @PlantChompers https://t.co/oaMLcvJTSj https://t.co/6mvchweTQw https://t.co/eYQPZnGHwq https://t.co/NsKl9Wy8Zt
@realDaveFeldman Thoughts on this info from @PlantChompers ? https://t.co/Hq7bdetzuC https://t.co/WFyT6VG9Ji
@bigfatsurprise Such a pity that the diet will probably give a person heart disease, according to the best science.
@rf121rf @DavidMe17661988 @RobertM32749782 Yes, I've seen many people say that about their books. https://t.co/ezkvPYZJFI
https://t.co/euUFCTsmM3 https://t.co/YbVFKhr1xs https://t.co/Tp45Q0gvR7 https://t.co/E3a9Flwf0w https://t.co/EFE3PKDraL
@MiocanDanijel 'Debunking Gary Taubes & the Case for Keto'. Spoiler alert: fact checking Gary's references in his book doesn't play out well. #plantbased #nutrition #myths 19 min video by @PlantChompers https://t.co/aOUfAhUxiE
Ancel Keys: The legacy of a giant in physiology, nutrition, and public health - PubMed This guy lived 100 years but his hypothesis that fat was a killer is totally wrong. #sugar is the killer and #Seedoils https://t.co/Qla9nPmjtK
@guardian Was going to pop some donations in today until I saw that poorly done article on debunked Gary Taubes! Just spreading more BS. Journalists have become so lazy: https://t.co/1wo3EJGVUW
@LDLSkeptic @realDaveFeldman @nicknorwitz @BudoffMd Will you be more honest than you were here? https://t.co/IWCP0jwdHf https://t.co/HlNVUelEpM
@LDLSkeptic @JohnColeman675 @mario_kratz @NikosNoulezas I’m not and LDL skeptic, but I am a Dr Diamond skeptic after hearing the info in these two vids: https://t.co/nReaXWB7Dv https://t.co/tsUMqmIxy5
@ScepticalDoctor @garytaubes I love the @PlantChompers channel. Have you seen this? https://t.co/DwMipR3tGs
RT @_earthling74: @CharlesStassi @ProfTimNoakes If the goal is just to be thorough and seek truth, interesting comments and findings about…
@CharlesStassi @ProfTimNoakes If the goal is just to be thorough and seek truth, interesting comments and findings about Banting’s book by @PlantChompers here: https://t.co/oFrtBKclUj and here: https://t.co/3tMPNvwY9W
@KetoCyclist @FoolproofMaster It breaks my brain to think how successful pop authors like Nina Teicholz, Gary Taubes and Mark Hyman have been at making stuff up about Ancel Keys. But this is what you get when someone qualified with no financial stake writes about Keys: https://t.co/L3FlV8Z4Vy
@LDLSkeptic @srtype1309 @Alicewants2know @JeffryGerberMD @bigfatsurprise @PlantChompers @lowcarbGP @lowcarb @garytaubes @realDaveFeldman Did you watch the video? He addresses this point around the 18 minute mark: https://t.co/GtdW4jkTqo
How Nutrition Misinformation Spreads 2: fact checking Dr. David Diamond's response. Statin & LDL misinformation. 37 min by @Plantchompers #carnivore #plantbased #atherosclerosis #cholesterol #veganism #ancelkeys #lowcarb #diet https://t.co/w2f4p7EBkQ
@GardnerPhD Dr. Diamond pushed back and asked me to respond, especially to his recent anti-statin talks. So I did and I think this episode is more important than the first: https://t.co/8lx0zXJXxu
Pseudo science low carbers, animal consumers, will push lies simply because they are a majority, their lies are ingrained in a majority of the public, so there are two few to get truth out, Chris of Plant Chompers is an expert at investigation of them. https://t.co/yH2TgKyPYy
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
@Alicewants2know @LDLSkeptic @JeffryGerberMD @bigfatsurprise @PlantChompers @lowcarbGP @lowcarb @garytaubes @realDaveFeldman https://t.co/HBjbhWCsAg I suppose none of this is worth looking at either? Just curious about your take on the reference structure here. Again. I'm not vegan, I'm a meat eater, so don't kill the messenger, address the points of the message.
@LDLSkeptic @bigfatsurprise @PlantChompers @JeffryGerberMD @lowcarbGP @lowcarb @garytaubes @realDaveFeldman Ok, crosstalk and potential for debate @PlantChompers @LDLSkeptic The importance here is about avoiding echo chambers, and review the contrasting views and science. This is important and helps us learn in civil discussion. https://t.co/HBjbhWBUKI
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
RT @PlantChompers: Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinfor…
Didn’t want to make this while in Japan with family, but son-in-law is a doc & VERY disturbed by what Internet misinformation has done to some of his patients. So the fam was patient while I dropped back, recorded a few lines, and ran to catch up. https://t.co/8lx0zXJXxu
'Debunking Gary Taubes & the Case for Keto' - by Chris MacAskill, Stanford scientist. (19 min video) aka Plantchompers Dispelling mis/disinformation on nutrition science. #plantbased #meat #diet #myths #keto #paleo #veganism https://t.co/Hjpij9GLYC
@Thamno Thanks! I am continually astonished at how what he wrote stood the test of time. Jean-Pierre Montani, the chair of the physiology department at the U of Fribourg, who has an impeccable reputation, did his own deep dive on Keys and landed where I have: https://t.co/WPPZylPGMQ
@gemagoldie @don_gracian_ @drmiguelmarcos Ese es idiota, hace años que he escrito post, formaciones o incluso en mi libro “Quema tu dieta” aportando info sobre los mitos erróneos de Keys (que yo mismo creí en su momento porque así me lo dijeron en la universidad) https://t.co/ZnsPFs890Y
@DietHeartNews How seriously should one really take Gary? https://t.co/S7vtB0MQLz
@John_LFK @turbotechdog @matthewhayek Dr Atkins: a history of heart attacks, congestive heart failure & hypertension. He weighed 258 lbs when he died. Keto is a rebranded Atkins diet. Not a healthy long term choice. @PlantChompers 20 min video Debunking Gary Taubes' 'The Case For Keto'. https://t.co/VANX9X1pkq
@minttjulep @LegendaryEnergy https://t.co/9dqQW8mjkr
RT @SentientBlobBob: @RedPillVegan Good stuff: https://t.co/S7vtB0MQLz
@RedPillVegan Good stuff: https://t.co/S7vtB0MQLz
@exfatloss @sguyenet @bigfatsurprise https://t.co/LZpltyx6qT
@StevenMBelknap @sguyenet @exfatloss @bigfatsurprise https://t.co/LZpltyx6qT
@Micah468420830 @vonVvegan @Pablolouis9 to show the fraud that 7 was incorrect This includes 140 references... https://t.co/zKQfP7jgbS
@Micah468420830 @vonVvegan @Pablolouis9 the 7 country study is only a "hypothesized study" so it's based personal option or anecdotes.. also here is proof that it was 22 countries and not 7 as you claimed https://t.co/zKQfP7jgbS you have been debunked and your claim of 7 is actually invalid and incorrect..
@ESpacetime Great reference, thanks. Each time I read what Ancel actually wrote (sadly, I've read it all and wish for more), I wonder when we'll ever get someone as good as he was. https://t.co/WPPZylPGMQ
Debunking Gary Taubes and the Case for Keto. The 19 min video. - PlantChompers. https://t.co/VANX9X1X9Y
RT @AlexSamTG: Et enfin Gary Taubes apparaît aussi, débunké ici : https://t.co/ve3ONub6Wa Ah là là.... Moi qui voulais simplement visiter…
Et enfin Gary Taubes apparaît aussi, débunké ici : https://t.co/ve3ONub6Wa Ah là là.... Moi qui voulais simplement visiter un musée.... Il a fallu un partenariat @ARTEfr du @Mucem au milieu !!!
Présenter Keys comme une totale fraude et dire que les données sont invalides est faux : la corrélation est toujours valide en incluant les 22 pays dont les données étaient présentées : https://t.co/4vyaLSZWLd ⬇️
https://t.co/axYIqCkeYD
@DietHeartNews @garytaubes https://t.co/BJBLyAJPal
@holmanm https://t.co/ZFYXQWHIcD Let's take a look at Ancel Keys real contributions to science & not this drivel shall we?
@bigfatsurprise Very good grounded-in-science piece. @PlantChompers https://t.co/BJBLyAJPal
@lowcarbusa https://t.co/BJBLyAJPal
@garytaubes I'm a fan and really enjoyed Why We Get Fat and some of your other work. I haven't read the Case for Keto, after already souring on keto due to personal experience. I would love if you could respond to some of the claims in this video: https://t.co/Grp2PnBfLb
@nick_krontiris @krosenque https://t.co/LZpltyx6qT
“Ancel Keys: The legacy of a giant in physiology, nutrition, and public health” The article below is a as brilliant review celebrating the career of Ancel Keys. He was a great scientist who conducted experiments and human trials t…https://t.co/4IIVzcby90 https://t.co/fGbLExE93o
RT @Tom_Babington1: Another day, another outrageous claim about Ancel Keys. Let's spread some appreciation for Ancel Keys! https://t.co…
Another day, another outrageous claim about Ancel Keys. Let's spread some appreciation for Ancel Keys! https://t.co/ZnEZvPaIyd https://t.co/kUFvHfXT53
@CulDeSacHero @doktormush Let me know what you think about this. https://t.co/yqcKfx5CO2
@deirdre_tobias "non-fiction"? It is a carefully constructed narrative As a historian I know how easy it is to construct a false historical narrative. This guy has checked some of the 'historical' facts (mainly from 2.45 - 10.30) (apologies if it's not your style ...) https://t.co/hJNuyxFoRR
A more extended discussion of these. https://t.co/8j6MjmVoHi https://t.co/npTp3stpvi
Here is a summary of some of the "criticisms" made by popular book authors and bloggers. https://t.co/8j6MjmVoHi https://t.co/CqKeoydRRm
It is true that Keys was not gentle to Yudkin--his chief scientific opponent at the time--but the data at the time simply did not favor Yudkin's hypothesis. https://t.co/8j6MjmVoHi https://t.co/83LQ9CBFWY
Indeed, Keys invited as many investigators to participate as possible. Thus, he in fact recruited 16 cohorts from the 7 countries, as seen below: https://t.co/8j6MjmVoHi https://t.co/dgEMGGc87G
Nobody knows exactly why Keys chose these 6 countries, and he specified only that these countries included the most complete available data. Importantly, his critics found the same relationships that Keys found, just attenuated. https://t.co/8j6MjmVoHi https://t.co/c35VpE3oVP
Keys selected 6 countries from publicly available data to show a relationship between saturated fat and heart disease. Two of his critics plotted an additional 16 countries showing the relationship was in fact weaker if these new countries were included. https://t.co/8j6MjmVoHi https://t.co/2zJnozYbWt
RT @Tom_Babington1: @kevinnbass Yep! https://t.co/FWzXhw2bfu
@kevinnbass Yep! https://t.co/FWzXhw2bfu
@Ramikla_1 @NutritionMadeS3 "Keys was an accomplished physiologist, a meticulous scientist, and a leader who could motivate his colleagues to undertake carefully conducted studies. He will remain as one of the giants in the history of medical sciences of the 20th century" https://t.co/ZnEZvPaIyd
@Dani_trainer_ Ese artículo recopila invents y storytelling de gurús vendedietas. La historia de la farsa del estudio de los 7 países es una farsa: https://t.co/2ebN92oPN0 Keys no era el demonio: https://t.co/9QOZaMWF0m Podrías actualizar tu artículo con estudios nuevos: https://t.co/KRswsg1Pe4
@RobertOhMD @garytaubes No thank you. I think he summed his review perfectly, for why this is might not be a good advise for medics. https://t.co/fPMkkXHWRo
Ancel Keys: The legacy of a giant in physiology, nutrition, and public health https://t.co/GciznI9UKA https://t.co/RPEzAghc0T
Ancel Keys: The legacy of a giant in physiology, nutrition, and public health | @scoopit https://t.co/AnuAkXPJ2K
@whsource : You inspired me to do a debunking of Gary Taubes. Your debate on Joe Rogan's podcast was very helpful. Thank you. https://t.co/ezkvPZgMHI
@whsource @kevinnbass Someone asked me to debunk Gary Taubes and I just couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Your debate with him on Joe Rogan’s podcast was very helpful. https://t.co/ezkvPYZbQa
Another great watch : Debunking Gary Taubes and The Case for Keto https://t.co/0bhUlE82ue via @YouTube
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Reading this, I was reminded of just how much of a legend Ancel Keys is. His research still holds up today. https://t.co/ANSMEiCybb
Do you think Gary Taubes believes what he writes, or does he have to chase book sales with the latest buzzwords to support his family? https://t.co/ezkvPZgMHI
RT @nutritioncast: "Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or finan…
RT @Tom_Babington1: @TheBhupiThakur @mrcogfit https://t.co/UdQij9X66h
RT @nutritioncast: "Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or finan…
RT @nutritioncast: "Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or finan…
RT @nutritioncast: "Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or finan…
Recordando a Ancel Keys (no, no es una banda Heavy Metal) https://t.co/HLUeTDyico
RT @nutritioncast: "Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or finan…
RT @nutritioncast: "Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or finan…
RT @nutritioncast: "Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or finan…
"Attacking Ancel Keys [...] as some bloggers, commercial book writers or journalists in quest of sensationalism or financial gain often have, amounts to either investigative incompetence or plain dishonesty at the edge of scientific fraud." Well put. https://t.co/Ra7JF3nBV6
Ancel Keys: The Legacy of a Giant in Physiology, Nutrition, & Public Health https://t.co/Wyk8oGNWWs