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The group collectively challenges sensational interpretations, emphasizing that the shift to horizontal birth positions was likely due to medical convenience rather than perversion, as seen in exchanges citing academic sources and debating how cultural and medical factors influenced birthing practices. The tone varies from skeptical to inquisitive, reflecting a desire to understand the complexities behind historical customs.
Most discussions express skepticism about the notion that historical decisions on birthing positions were driven by prurient interests, supporting the article's findings on medical convenience rather than fetishization.
Participants show high curiosity, referencing historical sources, academic articles, and debating the influence of monarchs on birthing practices.
Many users actively discuss sources, historical context, and the implications of medicalization, indicating deep involvement.
The discussions highlight awareness of historical and cultural factors in childbirth, though the direct influence on current practices seems moderate.
@chantelchavon @StephBeautiful @therealdejaz Most women were squatting or kneeling (going with gravity as opposed to it) I would read The Evolution of Maternal Birthing Position by Lauren Dundes if you want more info
@yusra_soliloque https://t.co/H76RJPSu0H
Why r they still teaching doctors to give birth horizontally if u ever give birth pleaseee please ask to be on hands and knees/squat the reason we give birth horizontally is bc king Louis XIV of France had a birth fetish and wanted to watch https://t.co/FUWQrT3zSM https://t.co/Ag48mXj0bo
@elyalae @freethetitos @venusianbabie the obscured view of birth when it occurred on a birthing stool, and promoted the new reclining position." So yes, there are weirdos that probably get turned on by that. Here's the study: https://t.co/k7l06Tn2nR (2/2)
@jfair9 @StephBeautiful @DriDawg Wow, this is actually true..
@SenseiCheeks @HerbalGoddess__ I did Google & it came up w a bunch of unreliable sources + PBS vid that doesn’t mention Louis XIV :/ but this is the most credible one i’ve come across so far, just for future reference
Women in Tanzania often adopt a supine position during childbirth due to instructions from midwives, who favor this method for monitoring and assistance. This study explores perceptions and traditional practices related…
Women in Tanzania often adopt the supine position during childbirth due to midwives' instructions, despite traditional upright positions. This study explores perceptions, experiences, and the influence of healthcare…
@mctayaa adição: parir deitada na cama virou prática relativamente comum em 1598 para facilitar o acesso de médicos/cirurgiões ao feto, não por causa do Luís XIV. ele apenas popularizou o método por causa do suposto fetiche, mas já era prática emergente https://t.co/eyb6Ekq70g
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@Superstar112244 @Thekeksociety American Journal of Public Health https://t.co/q6U6oCoCrG › ... The evolution of maternal birthing position. Not hard to find.
Why r they still teaching doctors to give birth horizontally if u ever give birth pleaseee please ask to be on hands and knees/squat the reason we give birth horizontally is bc king Louis XIV of France had a birth fetish and wanted to watch https://t.co/FUWQrT3zSM https://t.co/Ag48mXj0bo
@ccristaleorh C’est un vrai info le truc c que c pas réellement la faute à louis 14 c + la faute des médecins qui se sont dit « punaise c vachement plus pratique pour nous enfaite » https://t.co/H76RJPSu0H
@liline_lin https://t.co/H76RJPSu0H
@yusra_soliloque https://t.co/H76RJPSu0H
@I_SHOOT_COPS Not entirely true. It's true that giving birth lying down isn't ideal https://t.co/1JlqbOA9Wh
@milagracesmom @Libraryoftessa @tradicalfemanon https://t.co/yFh3stxeyd Absolutely absurd
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TIL women are supposed to give birth in upright position. The reason why now birthing on your back became so normalized is that a weird perverted king has a fetish of seeing labor some centuries ago https://t.co/iJm9ttKRKJ
https://t.co/ajL3tPjP6i เริ่มได้คำตอบละ55555 โบราณเค้าอาจจะไม่ได้คลอดกันท่านั้น eg แม่พระพุทธเจ้าโหนกิ่งไม้คลอด (ล้อเล่น), มีเก้าอี้มีรู เอาไว้นั่งคลอด
@Lotus_Efuru @WealthNWinz Literally. https://t.co/vazouN3m8P https://t.co/FEaktQ63kk
The paper, The #Evolution of #Maternal #Birthing #Position (1987), presents the historical roots of the #supine and #lithotomy delivery positions used in hospitals in the United States. It is a good read for many of us struggling to '#demedicalize' matern…https://t.co/n2ZQoRPHTj
@pdrbk @_desla_ @julianalssart https://t.co/JGbs4VRZ5Y https://t.co/PbQQsmi5CS https://t.co/wC0ttpYdwR https://t.co/NvYJoZJwUn
https://t.co/cXJe3fT9zV link do American Journal of Public Health onde isso foi publicado. Eles tbm apontam outras razões, dentre elas a maior conveniência pro parteiro e a crença d q seria + confortável p mulher. Isso segundo um homem q descrevia a gravidez como uma doença
@kelseybogan @Simply_Rain_S Never mind, perverted French King. Here is the cite: Dundes, L. (2003). The evolution of maternal birthing position. The manner born: Birth rites in cross-cultural perspective, 53-63.
@Lavlycho @Lukas_Galih @firnn @sushisashimiee @tubirfess tadi searching nemu ini https://t.co/8tPDi2feBY
RT @MeetingUk: There are many reasons proposed as to why this change occurred by the most commonly cited are male perversion (King Louis XI…
RT @MeetingUk: There are many reasons proposed as to why this change occurred by the most commonly cited are male perversion (King Louis XI…
RT @MeetingUk: There are many reasons proposed as to why this change occurred by the most commonly cited are male perversion (King Louis XI…
RT @MeetingUk: There are many reasons proposed as to why this change occurred by the most commonly cited are male perversion (King Louis XI…
There are many reasons proposed as to why this change occurred by the most commonly cited are male perversion (King Louis XIV) and convenience for the physician (reference: https://t.co/llNZ1g1rsx). When we discuss decolonisation, we must also apply this to maleness. (2)
I went down a rabbit hole and found this - ‘The Evolution of Maternal Birthing Position’ published ‘87. https://t.co/ETs4pF7TeW Might call it a night. Last thing I learnt today. https://t.co/m08roJ5pGH
@klvindavis Sources pour les sceptiques : #1 https://t.co/utd5A6w29w #2 https://t.co/U5tNtRYswn #3 https://t.co/quuYgNnrbA + Bonus : source des sources https://t.co/mn48MPgkbB
@linaa_51 + certains historiens de l'histoire obstétrique pensent que Louis 14 a beaucoup contribué à ça parce qu'il regardait souvent ses femmes accoucher par plaisir et il voyait rien quand elle mettait bas sur les tabourets fait pour ça à l'époque. source : https://t.co/9VmLuAHtqM
@elyalae @freethetitos @venusianbabie the obscured view of birth when it occurred on a birthing stool, and promoted the new reclining position." So yes, there are weirdos that probably get turned on by that. Here's the study: https://t.co/k7l06Tn2nR (2/2)
sources to information regarding birthing positions, royal customs, and the treacherous article: Wrongful & Misleading Article:https://t.co/avphQX6Wgj American Journal of Public Health: https://t.co/TLroBUtrrs Why Royal Births Had Audiences: https://t.co/QnjTsfqSp9 +
@rhiole In the article most people are referencing https://t.co/AtuWSh4Dq1 they also mention Mauriceau, who was French and writing during Louis XIV’s reign. He claims squatting is common but if she starts in bed, they dont have to carry her. There’s citations on the bottom to other texts
@EwaSR @keewa me neither. anyway I'm looking it up. basically yes it's mostly because it's easier for the doctor to see what's happening and corresponds with a shift towards medicalisation of childbirth. The sex idea seems to come from a rumour about Louis XIV https://t.co/ipqYjzkHv6
@crushpuppie So gross fact behind the influence of the modern day birthing position - https://t.co/EIIHKx7T2X https://t.co/Wvqw4MKCKN
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@SenseiCheeks @HerbalGoddess__ I did Google & it came up w a bunch of unreliable sources + PBS vid that doesn’t mention Louis XIV :/ but this is the most credible one i’ve come across so far, just for future reference
I really wish I could go back in fucking time and demand to not be reclining when I was induced. Cw: labor positions https://t.co/8OWffwLegn
lil something I learned recently about child birth — also an academic article from 1987 https://t.co/6nvD227yxL https://t.co/UWuasMqaba https://t.co/37cAzkDQiY
@nyponmy Vid ryggmärgsbedövning ska det tydligen också vara bättre att ligga på rygg. https://t.co/UtV9ULhalY
RT @_naturallymel: @chantelchavon @StephBeautiful @therealdejaz Most women were squatting or kneeling (going with gravity as opposed to it)…
@chantelchavon @StephBeautiful @therealdejaz Most women were squatting or kneeling (going with gravity as opposed to it) I would read The Evolution of Maternal Birthing Position by Lauren Dundes if you want more info
RT @ThisIsFRSH: @jfair9 @StephBeautiful @DriDawg Wow, this is actually true..
@jfair9 @StephBeautiful @DriDawg Wow, this is actually true..
RT @nuemin0us: Now that sparks me to read more on the evolution of maternal birthing position https://t.co/sIasQpkdFd https://t.co/h32VWJ…
Now that sparks me to read more on the evolution of maternal birthing position https://t.co/sIasQpkdFd https://t.co/h32VWJ4hfT
I googled and it’s true
@Ladyy__C https://t.co/ZX9vbU5PtH
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