OK so a full week later, I think I finally managed to understand that latest Anglo-Saxon aDNA paper by @JoGretzing et al. Firstly, congrats, this is unimaginably hard work. Here’s my one main takeaway
The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool.
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Discussion examples include users citing the 2022 study as evidence that modern English ancestry is predominantly Anglo-Saxon with notable native and French components, with words like 'proven' and 'confirmed' conveying confidence. The tone varies from supportive affirmations to critical debates about regional genetics, showing both engagement and differing perspectives on the article's implications.
Most discussions support the findings of the study, emphasizing the substantial Anglo-Saxon contribution to the current gene pool and challenging notions of complete replacement.
Posts demonstrate high curiosity about the genetic details and regional variations, including specific admixture percentages and historical implications.
Several users delve into detailed interpretations, referencing multiple studies and emphasizing genetic modeling, which indicates a deep level of engagement.
The social discussions reflect an influence on understanding national history and identity, although some debates suggest differing opinions about the broader significance.
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- The study reveals a significant influx of continental northern European DNA into early medieval England, particularly from Germany and Denmark, indicating large-scale migration across the North Sea during the Early Middle Ages.
- There was notable regional variation in ancestry within England, with up to 76% of some individuals' DNA coming from the North Sea zone, and differences in burial practices suggesting social distinctions linked to immigration status.
- Over time, subsequent demographic changes reduced this northern European ancestry and introduced new genetic components from southwestern Europe, reflecting a complex and dynamic population history in Britain.
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The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool, Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature 2022 " Pour Alt-Inden, nous voyons que toute ascendance (92%), pourrait être dérivée de sources françaises de l'âge du Fer du GrandEst & Hauts-De-France, avec quasiment https://t.co/1hymUttzU6 https://t.co/SEkpD9M6Ws
Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé des génomes du cimetière mérovingien d'Alt-Inden 92% France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1. https://t.co/B5at8t9hQR https://t.co/AvppN574Sx
The authors of the study "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" modeled genomes from the Merovingian cemetery of Alt-Inden 92% France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1. https://t.co/EMLanW19gF https://t.co/jowT5rMZ2u
@luglegaulois @ThibaudD__ @P_Vardon @Cato_Apollinis @TowaYowaIowa The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene https://t.co/oz7AooUBho
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@PotatoWaffen14 @Tom_Rowsell @MindEstates @stuzi_pants The key study is "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool," published in Nature on August 17, 2022. It sequenced genomes from 460 ancient individuals across England and continental sites, using ADMIXTURE and qpAdm to model admixture between Iron
@Beware_The_Noid @braydenjohn0 @SprIIteacus @brennelg @TheHughAnthony 74.4% White British = ancestry in UK ~1500 yrs ago (Nature 2022) 18% non-white = post-1948 immigrant roots Sources: 1. ONS 2021: https://t.co/fwbMINWE4Z 2. Nature: https://t.co/SG82B5upjP
RT @artengo75: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool, Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature 2022 " Pour Al…
RT @artengo75: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool, Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature 2022 " Pour Al…
RT @artengo75: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool, Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature 2022 " Pour Al…
The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool, Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature 2022 " Pour Alt-Inden, nous voyons que toute ascendance (92%), pourrait être dérivée de sources françaises de l'âge du Fer du GrandEst & Hauts-De-France, avec quasiment https://t.co/1hymUttzU6 https://t.co/SEkpD9M6Ws
@AngryPict @unknown_k7777 @MallyB30725 @PositivFuturist https://t.co/lmCd0UqkIJ
@KarlDiebitsch @notonyournally @JMPSimor @grok This is the only reference you need, I suggest you go an read it "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool". Nature. 610 (7930): 112–119.
@KarlDiebitsch @notonyournally @JMPSimor 37% and 57% are the upper limits, not averages. The simple fact percentage varies across the country shows it to be an ever evolving melting pot. Citation "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool". Nature. 610 (7930): 112–119.
@tadgh_dc These people disagree Gretzinger, Joscha, et al. "The Anglo-Saxon Migration and the Formation of the Early English Gene Pool." Nature 610.7930 (2022): 112-119. Hadley, Dawn M. "Viking and Native: Re–thinking Identity in the Danelaw." Early Medieval Europe 11.1 (2002): 45-70.
The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool | Nature https://t.co/GwWjmqqkkU
RT @Tatsuya9JP: @goldmann63364 @dissidentwest No; and Anglo-Saxons obviously were a true group. Both views are populist pseudo-science age…
RT @Tatsuya9JP: @goldmann63364 @dissidentwest No; and Anglo-Saxons obviously were a true group. Both views are populist pseudo-science age…
RT @Tatsuya9JP: @goldmann63364 @dissidentwest No; and Anglo-Saxons obviously were a true group. Both views are populist pseudo-science age…
@goldmann63364 @dissidentwest No; and Anglo-Saxons obviously were a true group. Both views are populist pseudo-science agendas. ... and you seemingly cant differentiated them; or side with the ones aligning with your own agenda. That is disappointing. https://t.co/NCXDQegxEg
RT @nrken19: New paper on Anglo-Saxons. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/AAp1YnYS…
RT @artengo75: @Jean_Piticcio @capat_sou @Walidfabry86 @Nalbandiannz The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene…
RT @nrken19: New paper on Anglo-Saxons. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/AAp1YnYS…
@grimnir123 @Haroon8290 @DillyHussain88 Read actual genetic studies, it's fun. Start with:------ Gretzinger, J., Sayer, D., Justeau, P. et al. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool. Nature 610, 112–119 (2022). https://t.co/DsWZML0RSG https://t.co/Ei8bzrtuHz
@cordedwarenomad @cadmiumoxidexd @wylfcen Patterson et al. (2021): https://t.co/cCC9q5Y6ox Gretzinger et al. (2022): https://t.co/06UTzdH6Rq Gretzinger et al. (2024): https://t.co/MnzkGfGzmw McColl preprint: https://t.co/oqVyxU9tnK (3/3)
@onlmaps https://t.co/d5jc3uhJMD
@Der_Ironist @HinderLoader @DerKleineFipps @AfDLindemann https://t.co/Ri8NOSUkZt „The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" Die haben den Genpool (vorallem der Engländer und weniger der Iren) wirklich geprägt.
The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/JyEEv2A19v via @Nature
@EnglishAutism @wylfcen @ItaloBalbo1962 @Tom_Rowsell Check Fig. 5 for present-day admixture of British https://t.co/rXUK0FhNhG
RT @PBerzy: @luglegaulois @ThibaudD__ @P_Vardon @Cato_Apollinis @TowaYowaIowa The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early Eng…
@funkarsg13 @nrken19 The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool | Nature https://t.co/pkdp4irgjk. The figure is in supplemental data via a link at the bottom of the article, scroll all the way down.
RT @PBerzy: @Jean_Piticcio @capat_sou @Walidfabry86 @Nalbandiannz The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene poo…
@hillmont_drive @istvaeonic should be providing a screenshot and maybe link. But it's The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool, Gretzinger et al, 2022.
@LaisisV The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) il y a une immigration provenant de la France qui a remplacé une grande partie de la population de Grande-Bretagne. La proximité génétiqueavec les Bretons vientdelà https://t.co/gJTiY4lAfB
It's very much more complicated than either of these articles suggest. I can recommend Robin Fleming's The Material Fall of Roman Britain for sub-Roman culture and Gretzinger et al The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool (Nature, 2022) for early medieval genetics.
@ZedongSecretary @AuntieSin @MichaelRosenYes @Anglospherist5 Just read this! “The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool” https://t.co/2GayNdz9ZO
@acemsdavis1 @alanjstedman @adilray False, it's now proven that the Angles and Saxons brought over plenty of their womenfolk, researchers found zero detectable evidence of any male sex bias. See: "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" published in Nature on 21 September, 2022 https://t.co/n5qzpIifGF
@Deborahpower5 @AaronBastani https://t.co/HV7ObWU2pX. Also.. "A landmark 2022 study titled "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool", found the English to be of plurality Anglo-Saxon-like ancestry, with heavy native Celtic Briton"
@CisalpineSwag @AUSTRALFrog The French component was added after the Anglo-Saxon invasion/migration. England was more Germanic during the Early Middle Ages than today. From "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool". https://t.co/fF1VkUa9YA
@p5ych0p0mp Latter needs further research. Authors suggest undocumented Frankish, others suggest its really Norman. I guess Cumbria is more Celtic owing to having less of the French influence? Source: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool | Nature
@John01182784980 @AmeridoB @BBCNews A major 2022 study titled "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool", found the English to be of plurality Anglo-Saxon-like ancestry, with heavy native Celtic Briton. So far from almost wiped out. In fact very prevalent in Britain.
RT @PBerzy: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) Les aut…
RT @PBerzy: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) Les aut…
RT @PBerzy: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) Les aut…
The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé les génomes du cimetière mérovingien https://t.co/V6QN3yMDSG https://t.co/zguviTiwFC
In 2022, a study titled The Anglo-Saxon Migration and the formation of the early English gene pool (https://t.co/fAvQaTYX6f) found that the modern English ethnicity is comprised of 25-47% Anglo-Saxon, 14-43% French and 11-57% Celtic Briton ancestry respectively. Interestingly,
@FredricMorenius @BBCr4today @gnuseibeh Wikipedia A landmark 2022 study titled "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool", found the English to be of plurality Anglo-Saxon-like ancestry, with heavy native Celtic Briton, and newly confirmed medieval French admixture. A lot of mixing !
@Jean_Piticcio @capat_sou @Walidfabry86 @Nalbandiannz The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé les génomes du cimetière mérovingien d'Alt-Inden https://t.co/Rkzkwn8QUt
@erwann_k @nationalliste @Oskar9524 @JeslaFran @teleoplexie Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé les génomes du cimetière mérovingien d'Alt-Inden 92 % France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1.
@TSovereigner @John_for_hope @SteveAllan1199 @Sargon_of_Akkad Even just the title of the genetic study above proves you wrong. "The Anglo-Saxon Migration and the Formation of the Early English..", meaning the English were formed in Britain after the Saxons intermarried with the Britons. You are therefore wrong.
RT @PBerzy: @luglegaulois @ThibaudD__ @P_Vardon @Cato_Apollinis @TowaYowaIowa The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early Eng…
Carrefour ou centre de diffusion? images 1-3: Evidence for dynastic succession among early Celtic elites Joscha Gretzinger, Nature Behaviour (2024) image 4: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger, Nature (2021) https://t.co/dZcCCh1Ank https://t.co/mtMVauZDzg
@luglegaulois @ThibaudD__ @P_Vardon @Cato_Apollinis @TowaYowaIowa The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger and al. Nature (2021) Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene https://t.co/oz7AooUBho
@Jdmonl @GabRobin31 Les deux se confondent probablement, si l'on s'en tient à la seule publication archéogénomique disponible à ce jour. Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé les génomes du cimetière mérovingien d'Alt-Inden https://t.co/8CWguQXKC9
@RedSorys Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé les génomes du cimetière mérovingien d'Alt-Inden 92 % France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1. C'est la seule référence sur la composition autosomale disponible à ce jour. https://t.co/bsUnkk36cp
@digitildream @KremlinBasement Viking or Norman ancestry is not included "A landmark 2022 study titled "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool", found the English to be of plurality Anglo-Saxon-like ancestry
RT @nrken19: New paper on Anglo-Saxons. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/AAp1YnYS…
RT @nrken19: New paper on Anglo-Saxons. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/AAp1YnYS…
RT @nrken19: New paper on Anglo-Saxons. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/AAp1YnYS…
RT @nrken19: New paper on Anglo-Saxons. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/AAp1YnYS…
RT @ChrisStringer65: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool | Nature https://t.co/JIEVK3TSXm
RT @ChrisStringer65: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool | Nature https://t.co/JIEVK3TSXm
RT @ChrisStringer65: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool | Nature https://t.co/JIEVK3TSXm
RT @PBerzy: The authors of the study "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" modeled genomes from the…
RT @PBerzy: When individuals claim that Britain is exclusively white or Anglo-Saxon, they establish an arbitrary cutoff point, a recent con…
When individuals claim that Britain is exclusively white or Anglo-Saxon, they establish an arbitrary cutoff point, a recent concept with no scientific basis. You are wrong, deeply wrong. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool Joscha Gretzinger https://t.co/aBXccHQ0i9
@nrken19 3. The WBI type heavy on the CWE (see my favorite paper for those terms implications https://t.co/XBEWCe2Vc8 Gretzinger, J., Sayer, D., Justeau, P. et al. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool. Nature 610, 112–119 (2022).
@Enricosk5 @Danora10 Oui. En revanche, votre affirmation sur les Wisigoths, Francs & Lombards en France est surprenante. On n'a aucune publication française & seule Gretzinger & al. 2022, dans The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool donne une modélisation de génomes
Oui. En revanche, votre affirmation sur les Wisigoths, Francs & Lombards en France, est surprenante. On n'a aucune publication française sur l'impact des migrations germaniques en Gaule & seul Gretzinger & al. 2022 dans The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early
@GabRobin31 @nrken19 The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/zdMneybLb1 Comme on le constate, les samples du Fer français ne sont pas proches des Scandinaves ni sur le PCA ni en terme d'admixture. https://t.co/b8J9gI82YP
@frauenversteher @nrken19 Gretzinger, J., Sayer, D., Justeau, P. et al. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool. Nature 610, 112–119 (2022). https://t.co/XBEWCe2Vc8 This paper seems to have informed some of the directions upon a first read over of the new paper.
https://t.co/bqgxGcvyOD https://t.co/OSf1XoBWYY https://t.co/O5ee9kUZEd basic reading, wont spam links no one will read, we'll focus on "the anglo-saxon migration and the formation of the early english gene pool" as basis for commentary its the most cited study i've seen on here.
RT @PBerzy: Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé des génomes du…
RT @Nature: Nature research paper: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/Xwj6jitzXZ
RT @PBerzy: @marxovitch @_beliyyaal_ Sinon, je peux te citer les études de Claire-Elise Fischer, sa thèse, la publication de Samantha Brune…
@marxovitch @_beliyyaal_ Sinon, je peux te citer les études de Claire-Elise Fischer, sa thèse, la publication de Samantha Brunel, celle d'Isabel Alves ou "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" publiée récemment dans Nature. https://t.co/0mCYdpb3cB
RT @PBerzy: The authors of the study "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" modeled genomes from the…
Gretzinger, J., Sayer, D., Justeau, P. et al. The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool. Nature 610, 112–119 (2022). https://t.co/mqF55NjPSa #OpenAccess #Archaeology #Genetics #Science
@Tom_Rowsell @FrancisMacaron @surehistory @nrken19 You also seemed to forget the statement of the authors of "The authors of the study "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool": https://t.co/TjoAHh1QJK
RT @PBerzy: The authors of the study "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" modeled genomes from the…
The authors of the study "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" modeled genomes from the Merovingian cemetery of Alt-Inden 92% France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1. https://t.co/iL9L5YwROb https://t.co/Hu5fCqSAwL
"A landmark 2022 study titled "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool", found the English to be of plurality Anglo-Saxon-like ancestry, with heavy native Celtic Briton, and newly confirmed medieval French admixture."
@dannytanner420 @digitildream @enjoyfroggo @DelusionPosting You both don't know what you're talking about. Show me one genomics papers that talks about a Celtic resurgence or a med influx. The modern English are up to 40% Anglo Saxon, and potentially another 20% Germanic from the danelaw. The rest is Frank and celt https://t.co/eIVgx1mypG
The authors of the study "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" modeled genomes from the Merovingian cemetery of Alt-Inden 92% France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1. https://t.co/EMLanW19gF https://t.co/jowT5rMZ2u
RT @PBerzy: Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé des génomes du…
Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé des génomes du cimetière mérovingien d'Alt-Inden 92% France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1. https://t.co/G8b5O10AjY https://t.co/zjbGz1Zm6p
RT @PBerzy: Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé des génomes du…
RT @PBerzy: Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé des génomes du…
Les auteurs de l'étude "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" ont modélisé des génomes du cimetière mérovingien d'Alt-Inden 92% France-Grand_Est_ Iron_ Age1. https://t.co/B5at8t9hQR https://t.co/AvppN574Sx
"The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool" https://t.co/5c3jscZQN1
@chribreuer @nrken19 So another one from “The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool” doi::10.1038/s41586-022-05247-2 supplement, Gretzinger et Al, 2022, Nature. Looks like the Highlands East and Somerset near Sandwich have 15+% Viking parts of Scandinavia as ibd. https://t.co/cCd0NWXnU6
RT @OyatsuMaster: #考古学のおやつ 3/3 →cf. Joscha Gretzinger et ak. (2022) The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene p…
#考古学のおやつ 3/3 →cf. Joscha Gretzinger et ak. (2022) The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool. Nature. [Nature (@nature)] https://t.co/ble2OK2zb1
RT @JC_pathogenomic: The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool. https://t.co/V2xAANN6EW
The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool. https://t.co/V2xAANN6EW
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RT @amaldon: OK so a full week later, I think I finally managed to understand that latest Anglo-Saxon aDNA paper by @JoGretzing et al. Firs…
RT @amaldon: OK so a full week later, I think I finally managed to understand that latest Anglo-Saxon aDNA paper by @JoGretzing et al. Firs…
RT @amaldon: OK so a full week later, I think I finally managed to understand that latest Anglo-Saxon aDNA paper by @JoGretzing et al. Firs…
OK so a full week later, I think I finally managed to understand that latest Anglo-Saxon aDNA paper by @JoGretzing et al. Firstly, congrats, this is unimaginably hard work. Here’s my one main takeaway
The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool https://t.co/5Th6iCb2jM
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