The discussions demonstrate strong agreement, with participants praising the paper as a definitive refutation of creationist claims, using phrases like 'directly refuted' and 'debunk.' The tone is enthusiastic and confident, reflecting high interest and perceived importance, especially with mentions of live breakdowns and sharing of the paper's links to emphasize the paper's influence on ongoing debates.
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Most discussions strongly support the paper, emphasizing its success in refuting creationist critiques of Fisher's theorem.
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Participants show high enthusiasm and curiosity, engaging with detailed breakdowns and live discussions about the research.
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Posts include live events, links to the paper, and detailed mathematical analyses, indicating deep involvement.
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The discussion highlights the publication's significance in advancing scientific debates and countering creationist misinformation.
Abstract in brief
The text discusses the history and interpretation of Fisher's fundamental theorem of natural selection, highlighting how its understanding has evolved since 1930 and clarifying that it is a general theorem applicable to any evolving population.
The authors refute Basener and Sanford's critique, arguing that they misrepresented the theorem by overlooking its implicit inclusion of genetic variation and mutational effects, and by producing unrealistic simulation results.
The authors suggest that Basener and Sanford's criticisms may have been motivated by an intention to undermine the concept of universal common descent, rather than just critiquing Fisher's theorem itself.]
Guys two of my friends PUBLISHED a creationist debunk lmao
https://t.co/KjMn3rXWXw
https://t.co/v9VmaDPlTL
They're giving pdfs away so just ask if you want one (them not me lol)
Hey I wonder if any creationists are going to respond to the direct refutations of one of their few peer-reviewed papers, or if they're just gonna take the L.
What do you think, @zachbbionerd?
https://t.co/QFzq92mxFs
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Creation Myths
@theevilutionist · X
Tomorrow, 9pm eastern: @zachbbionerd joins me to talk about our new paper! We directly refuted a real peer reviewed creationist paper, AND showed how “genetic entropy” fails! It’s a BFD. Don’t miss this one, folks.
https://t.co/k0ThnEuMr6
Cat's out of the bag, @zachbbionerd and I co-authored a paper directly refuting Basener and Sanford (2018) on Fisher's fundamental theorem or natural selection. And it's also a direct refutation of silly "genetic entropy"!
https://t.co/4CD1aOTXx3
TONIGHT: Dr. Zach Hancock (@zachbbionerd) breaks down the math of our new paper in the Journal of Mathematical Biology, which refutes Basener and Sanford (2018), and shows that "genetic entropy" is nonsense. 8pm Eastern, April 9th, 2024.
https://t.co/2uxzwPjgU7
Creationists sometimes have papers published in peer-reviewed journals and claim they remain unrefuted. This video presents examples of direct scientific refutations, including a recent paper authored by talkpopgen and…
This video explains how to derive Fisher's fundamental theorem of natural selection from Price's theorem without simplifying assumptions, clarifying its fundamental role in evolutionary theory and addressing recent…
This video provides a detailed response to Basener and Sanford 2018, explaining the evolution of Fisher's theorem since 1930, its general applicability, and addressing misinterpretations and criticisms related to…
RT @theevilutionist: Hey I wonder if any creationists are going to respond to the direct refutations of one of their few peer-reviewed pape…
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Gutsick Gibbon is on Youtube
@Gutsick_Gibbon · X
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John Smith⚛ (Explorer of Reality)
@doofgeek4011 · X
RT @theevilutionist: Hey I wonder if any creationists are going to respond to the direct refutations of one of their few peer-reviewed pape…
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Creation Myths
@theevilutionist · X
Hey I wonder if any creationists are going to respond to the direct refutations of one of their few peer-reviewed papers, or if they're just gonna take the L.
What do you think, @zachbbionerd?
https://t.co/QFzq92mxFs
Jun 3, 2024 · 33 likes · 5 shares · 731 followersView post →
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Danish Debater
@DanishDebater · X
RT @theevilutionist: Want to understand the paper @zachbbionerd and I wrote refuting a 2018 creationist paper (a legit peer reviewed paper!…
Want to understand the paper @zachbbionerd and I wrote refuting a 2018 creationist paper (a legit peer reviewed paper!)?
Here's a breakdown: https://t.co/QFzq92lZPU
Tomorrow, 9pm eastern: @zachbbionerd joins me to talk about our new paper! We directly refuted a real peer reviewed creationist paper, AND showed how “genetic entropy” fails! It’s a BFD. Don’t miss this one, folks.
https://t.co/k0ThnEuMr6
The following week, April 24th, 2024, literature review with @zachbbionerd going over our new paper in the Journal of Mathematical Biology: https://t.co/QFzq92lZPU
This is a direct response and refutation to Basener and Sanford (2018).
TONIGHT: Dr. Zach Hancock (@zachbbionerd) breaks down the math of our new paper in the Journal of Mathematical Biology, which refutes Basener and Sanford (2018), and shows that "genetic entropy" is nonsense. 8pm Eastern, April 9th, 2024.
https://t.co/2uxzwPjgU7
"Thus, we’ve added nothing additional to the understanding of Fisher’s theorem; in this way, our contribution to Fisher’s theorem is equal to that of Basener and Sanford (2018)."
Congrats on your paper, @zachbbionerd & @theevilutionist!
https://t.co/9UHYo0DO0a
Guys two of my friends PUBLISHED a creationist debunk lmao
https://t.co/KjMn3rXWXw
https://t.co/v9VmaDPlTL
They're giving pdfs away so just ask if you want one (them not me lol)
Cat's out of the bag, @zachbbionerd and I co-authored a paper directly refuting Basener and Sanford (2018) on Fisher's fundamental theorem or natural selection. And it's also a direct refutation of silly "genetic entropy"!
https://t.co/4CD1aOTXx3