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The social discussions demonstrate strong support for the research suggesting an earlier emergence of SARS-CoV-2, with phrases like 'brilliant paper' and 'stunning experimental design' conveying high regard. Participants reference key studies and specific dates such as 'mid-October to mid-November 2019', illustrating detailed engagement and interest in the nuances of pandemic origin debates.
The discussions consistently support the idea that the virus's emergence likely occurred earlier than previously believed, emphasizing scholarly consensus.
The posts clearly show high curiosity and engagement with the research, referencing multiple studies and debating the timing of initial cases.
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The discussions could influence ongoing investigations and public perceptions about pandemic origins, highlighting their notable societal and scientific significance.
@arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a doctored version of Fig. 3E from Pekar et al.'s "Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province", 2021. https://t.co/O5X40knsWX
@arguablywrong @slatestarcodex "Timing..." dated epidemic simulations by aligning them with tMRCAs drawn from posterior distributions from BEAST, and then rejected them if they did not have an ascertained case by a specific date - for Fig. 3E it was December 1 https://t.co/NT6WDWqXrt
26/ If this turns out to be correct, Pekar’s period between mid-October and mid-November 2019 corresponds not to the index case of Covid-19 as a whole as they suggest, but to the index case a more-transmissible variant, which now dominates https://t.co/ZmLVsok7F4
That alone does not prove that the outbreak started at Huanan market. There could still have been a few cases before the market outbreak, before the TMRCA. https://t.co/OBNKj4LSWD https://t.co/QtziqID1pq
@Florin_Uncovers Pekar, Worobey et al ["Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province"]: Our results define period b/w mid-Oct & mid-Nov 2019 as plausible interval when 1st case of SARS-CoV-2 emerged in China. DOI: 10.1126/science.abm44. How did their 2022 papers pass peer review?
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RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
Then he wrote a paper investigating whether there might be cases before the market outbreak, and modeling how many pre-market cases there could possibly be. (spoiler: the answer is not very many -- simulations predicted only 9 infections in November) https://t.co/OBNKj4LSWD
That alone does not prove that the outbreak started at Huanan market. There could still have been a few cases before the market outbreak, before the TMRCA. https://t.co/OBNKj4LSWD https://t.co/QtziqID1pq
In 2021, Jonathan Pekar wrote a paper simulating the epidemic in Wuhan. https://t.co/OBNKj4LSWD That paper actually argued that a lab leak was still possible -- Worobey and Pekar were not convinced by the data yet, back in 2021. https://t.co/9eRUp5lcQT
RT @Rebecca21951651: @RicketRobin @ydeigin @jbloom_lab . @michaelworobey & @jepekar did this -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @RicketRobin @ydeigin @jbloom_lab . @michaelworobey & @jepekar did this -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster…
RT @Muchfaster: 27/ @MichaelWorobey et al https://t.co/wqM2yMDSlf
27/ @MichaelWorobey et al https://t.co/wqM2yMDSlf
@Science54900201 @Voices4Vaccines The last bone I’ll throw you. https://t.co/wqM2yMEqaN
RT @LmBubba: @Amy31129057 @COVIDSelect @RandPaul @realDonaldTrump @SenRonJohnson https://t.co/mEDgiQR4cU
@TedMoondust @DkSemyon @nikocosmonaut Dec 10 is not the actual starting date, there can be a few cases before TMRCA. If you want to get into the details of that more, Pekar et al 2021 is a fairly easy read, that estimated the possible number of November cases (very low, median of 9) https://t.co/OBNKj4LSWD https://t.co/lmpyUk204W
RT @LmBubba: @Amy31129057 @COVIDSelect @RandPaul @realDonaldTrump @SenRonJohnson https://t.co/mEDgiQR4cU
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
@chris_komatsu @berkley_lynch @MMKavanagh @zeynep https://t.co/My8JnsFxXE
RT @LmBubba: @Amy31129057 @COVIDSelect @RandPaul @realDonaldTrump @SenRonJohnson https://t.co/mEDgiQR4cU
RT @Rebecca21951651: @mbw61567742 @tgof137 @Muller_Lab Pekar 2021: "Our results define the period between mid-October and mid-November 201…
@mbw61567742 @tgof137 @Muller_Lab Pekar 2021: "Our results define the period between mid-October and mid-November 2019 as the plausible interval when the first case of SARS-CoV-2 emerged in Hubei province, China." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @LmBubba: @Amy31129057 @COVIDSelect @RandPaul @realDonaldTrump @SenRonJohnson https://t.co/mEDgiQR4cU
RT @LmBubba: @Amy31129057 @COVIDSelect @RandPaul @realDonaldTrump @SenRonJohnson https://t.co/mEDgiQR4cU
@Amy31129057 @COVIDSelect @RandPaul @realDonaldTrump @SenRonJohnson https://t.co/mEDgiQR4cU
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @christianperez:
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex "Timing..." dated epidemic simulations by aligning them with tMRCAs drawn from posterior dis…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex "Timing..." dated epidemic simulations by aligning them with tMRCAs drawn from posterior dis…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
RT @nizzaneela: @arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a docto…
@arguablywrong @slatestarcodex "Timing..." dated epidemic simulations by aligning them with tMRCAs drawn from posterior distributions from BEAST, and then rejected them if they did not have an ascertained case by a specific date - for Fig. 3E it was December 1 https://t.co/NT6WDWqXrt
@arguablywrong @slatestarcodex It gets worse. As evidence against an earlier introduction, @slatestarcodex presents a doctored version of Fig. 3E from Pekar et al.'s "Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province", 2021. https://t.co/O5X40knsWX
@stevenemassey @ban_epp_gofroc @gdemaneuf Like this? https://t.co/uOWKOKN6wv
@blink64 Don't forget Worobey and Pekar themselves (in 2021)
That sounds pretty close to Pekar et al 2021, which gave median of 9 cases before December 1st: https://t.co/OBNKj4Ll75
RT @ColinDavdButler: @ibisibis123 @Rebecca21951651 @Ayjchan Unimpressive reviewers also missed flaws found by Stoyan & Chiu (doi: 10.1093/j…
@ibisibis123 @Rebecca21951651 @Ayjchan Unimpressive reviewers also missed flaws found by Stoyan & Chiu (doi: 10.1093/jrsssa/qnad139). This paper exemplifies poor epi, its foundations are v. weak. doi 10.1126/science.abf8003 (Pekar & W) concluded mid-Oct to mid-Nov 2019 likely time 1st case emerged in Hubei.
RT @BiophysicsFL: Worobey: Science [Report] (Mar 2021) started mid-Nov to mid-Oct - so NOT market Science[Perspective] (Nov 2021) "strong…
@nizzaneela @RobTownley6 @harishseshadri2 @tgof137 @KatherineEban Their molecular clock in 2021 was telling them something different... https://t.co/uOWKOKN6wv https://t.co/nHBZqedBMW
@pcfurin @john_bumblebee @Samuel_Gregson @PhilippMarkolin SCITE uses maximum likelihood to determine the order of mutations They then use a mutation rate determined by an earlier pub by Pekar and Worobey
RT @Rebecca21951651: @_everythingism @flodebarre @C_Kavanagh @emilyakopp @MichaelWorobey @WHO @MarionKoopmans @TheaKFischer Worobey et al:…
@_everythingism @flodebarre @C_Kavanagh @emilyakopp @MichaelWorobey @WHO @MarionKoopmans @TheaKFischer Worobey et al: Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event..... This analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-Oct to mid-Nov of 2019 https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @_everythingism @flodebarre @C_Kavanagh @emilyakopp @MichaelWorobey @WHO @MarionKoopmans @TheaKFischer Talk to Worobey…
@_everythingism @flodebarre @C_Kavanagh @emilyakopp @MichaelWorobey @WHO @MarionKoopmans @TheaKFischer Talk to Worobey: https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event... analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October to mid-November of 2019 "
RT @Rebecca21951651: @RicketRobin @ydeigin @jbloom_lab . @michaelworobey & @jepekar did this -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @RicketRobin @ydeigin @jbloom_lab . @michaelworobey & @jepekar did this -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster…
@RicketRobin @ydeigin @jbloom_lab . @michaelworobey & @jepekar did this -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late Dec of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event...pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-Oct to mid-Nov of 2019" No need to repeat the work.
@AtomsksSanakan @AndyMLinn @past_is_future You cited what is basically an editorial presented as a review. Let's discuss Pekar et al., 2021. Have a read: https://t.co/nEp31zBJsU
@theAliceRoberts @Kit_Yates_Maths https://t.co/iI0x2njxpF
RT @Rebecca21951651: @BiophysicsFL "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating…
RT @Greg21143362: @WashburneAlex This is a ‘sanitised’ view....September 2019 has been shown more likely...; https://t.co/cQcZFp3biu
@WashburneAlex This is a ‘sanitised’ view....September 2019 has been shown more likely...; https://t.co/cQcZFp3biu
@Samuel_Gregson @_everythingism @mbw61567742 @zeynep @stephen_lagana @BrianRWasik Thats from Jonathan Pekar, 2021. https://t.co/7RTNQwN4h9
@grizwald87 @mbalter @zeynep @tommy2t45103307 @BiophysicsFL @MarioKoopmans @R_H_Ebright @janeqiuchina @sciencecohen Having early introductions of sparks that failed to start blazes differs a lot from having a singular index case that just sort of smolders though. Epidemiological and genetic modeling puts patient 0 in the Oct-Nov time range: https://t.co/9YW2paedOF https://t.co/NpSmNkZxNA
"Consequently, the index case in Hubei likely contracted SARS-CoV-2 on or around 4 November 2019 (95% upper HPD: 15 October; 99% upper HPD: 7 October)" https://t.co/RizhG0gMzW https://t.co/UkEGoaQtxr
RT @nizzaneela: @cshperspectives Shocked to see this paper has not been retracted. How many charlatans have been emboldened seeing scientis…
@cshperspectives Shocked to see this paper has not been retracted. How many charlatans have been emboldened seeing scientists evade valid criticisms from an undergraduate in eLetters, and then change the results in a later paper, exactly as predicted by that undergraduate? https://t.co/VFBJFyolGb
RT @Rebecca21951651: @TheTropaion @nizzaneela @Ayjchan And @michaelworobey & @jepekar don't say that Dec market data represent initiating e…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @TheTropaion @nizzaneela @Ayjchan And @michaelworobey & @jepekar don't say that Dec market data represent initiating e…
@TheTropaion @nizzaneela @Ayjchan And @michaelworobey & @jepekar don't say that Dec market data represent initiating event but earlier unknown event caused it -- how that connects to the market is done via flawed geospatial analysis. Earlier Worobey paper: Read 2nd sentence of abstract: https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @BiophysicsFL "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating…
@BiophysicsFL "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp - @michaelworobey & @jepekar
RT @Rebecca21951651: @bmichaels90025 @jbkinney @BiosafetyNow Not to mention they self contradict: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified…
@bmichaels90025 @jbkinney @BiosafetyNow Not to mention they self contradict: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @danwalker9999 @scotub @carlzimmer Also @michaelworobey & @jepekar -- "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late…
@danwalker9999 @scotub @carlzimmer Also @michaelworobey & @jepekar -- "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
@jaredpretender @abhishek_s_1 @gtuckerkellogg @MJnanostretch @BenFPiercePhD Worobey and Pekar do a good job of rebutting themselves: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @BenFPiercePhD @Biorealism @MichaelWorobey @scotub Even @michaelworobey & @jepekar argue that market cases are unlikel…
@BenFPiercePhD @Biorealism @MichaelWorobey @scotub Even @michaelworobey & @jepekar argue that market cases are unlikely to be origin of the pandemic: The market cases are just a super-spreader "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
@BenFPiercePhD @MichaelWorobey Response 2. The tweet from @flodebarre has been deleted. The likelihood of a COVID origin prior to Dec2019 has been argued by others, including Worobey himself: https://t.co/sCanJWYEvf https://t.co/GqMqIOo3La
@Ticklicker56 @emilyakopp @MichaelWorobey @jepekar This paper: https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp says: "Therefore, the Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event. " But @jepekar paper says Nov-Dec 2019 market event was likely origin of pandemic. Seems contradictory.
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Ticklicker56 @emilyakopp But they also argue against the market being the location of the initiating event: "Therefo…
@Ticklicker56 @emilyakopp But they also argue against the market being the location of the initiating event: "Therefore, the Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event. " Which @michaelworobey do you believe? https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
@Ticklicker56 @emilyakopp @MichaelWorobey @jepekar It's not necessarily a firm contradiction but you can read what they write: "the Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event. " They argue 2 different things in 2 different papers https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @emilyakopp Yeah -- @michaelworobey & @jepekar agree: https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "the Wuhan cluster of infections ident…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @stgoldst @alchemytoday @joshrogin https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "the Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late Decemb…
@stgoldst @alchemytoday @joshrogin https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "the Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event. ...This analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October to mid-November of 2019 "
RT @Rebecca21951651: @emilyakopp Yeah -- @michaelworobey & @jepekar agree: https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "the Wuhan cluster of infections ident…
@emilyakopp Yeah -- @michaelworobey & @jepekar agree: https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "the Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event...this analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October to mid-November of 2019"
@TheTropaion @Graybea71861266 @edwardcholmes @flodebarre There is even one lab there that collaborated with EcoHealth Alliance, so you could have the same story about connections to them and thereby to Anthony Fauci, etc. And our work shows that this virus needed a city to emerge: https://t.co/ekEkhO3ilS
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Florin_Uncovers If you want to talk about illogical...let's also discuss earlier @michaelworobey & @jepekar paper: "…
@Florin_Uncovers If you want to talk about illogical...let's also discuss earlier @michaelworobey & @jepekar paper: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event."
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Florin_Uncovers @nameandnumber79 Worobey and Pekar already rebutted Worobey and Pekar -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
@Florin_Uncovers @nameandnumber79 Worobey and Pekar already rebutted Worobey and Pekar -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @AdrianJ44426152 @chasewnelson @WHO @DrMikeRyan Moreover, @MichaelWorobey & @jepekar themselves argue against the Dec…
@AdrianJ44426152 @chasewnelson @WHO @DrMikeRyan Moreover, @MichaelWorobey & @jepekar themselves argue against the Dec timeframe for initial zoonosis: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @R_H_Ebright @mbalter @gdemaneuf Those authors contradict themselves in print. " Wuhan cluster of infections identifi…
@R_H_Ebright @mbalter @gdemaneuf Those authors contradict themselves in print. " Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event. " -- @MichaelWorobey & @jepekar @hholdenthorp @sciencecohen @natashaloder @KatherineEban https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @R_H_Ebright @harishseshadri2 @MichaelWorobey @KatherineEban Being Schrodinger's Worobey, did you know I wrote a paper…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @dkupiecki @BenFPiercePhD @MichaelWorobey Oh yeah...he even published a couple of times on origins. "Wuhan cluster of…
@dkupiecki @BenFPiercePhD @MichaelWorobey Oh yeah...he even published a couple of times on origins. "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event......analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-Oct to mid-Nov of 2019 " https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @R_H_Ebright @harishseshadri2 @MichaelWorobey @KatherineEban Being Schrodinger's Worobey, did you know I wrote a paper…
@R_H_Ebright @harishseshadri2 @MichaelWorobey @KatherineEban Being Schrodinger's Worobey, did you know I wrote a paper saying the market was NOT the origin of the pandemic, .....yes w/ Schrodinger's @jepekar ! "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late Dec 2019 may not have represented the initiating event." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Engineer2The @thackerpd @Bryce_Nickels @hkakeya @danaparish @LarryBoorstein @peter_berghmans @lab_leak @InWuchang @Mo…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Engineer2The @thackerpd @Bryce_Nickels @hkakeya @danaparish @LarryBoorstein @peter_berghmans @lab_leak @InWuchang @Mo…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Engineer2The @thackerpd @Bryce_Nickels @hkakeya @danaparish @LarryBoorstein @peter_berghmans @lab_leak @InWuchang @Mo…
@Engineer2The @thackerpd @Bryce_Nickels @hkakeya @danaparish @LarryBoorstein @peter_berghmans @lab_leak @InWuchang @MonaRahalkar @BlackTomThePyr8 @angelaronnette I feel strongly that @worobey & @jepekar listen to Worobey & Pekar "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event...this analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October..." https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Biorealism @rilkefan1 @EmaNymton90 @simon_schama @BBCr4today @DavidBahry @scotub Maybe he meant this Pekar/Worobey pi…
@Biorealism @rilkefan1 @EmaNymton90 @simon_schama @BBCr4today @DavidBahry @scotub Maybe he meant this Pekar/Worobey piece!
RT @Rebecca21951651: @JamieMetzl @WHO @DrMikeRyan Even @MichaelWorobey and @jepekar argued that virus originated earlier: "Wuhan cluster o…
@JamieMetzl @WHO @DrMikeRyan Even @MichaelWorobey and @jepekar argued that virus originated earlier: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late Dec of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event... analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-Oct to mid-Nov" https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @BiophysicsFL @kellywind @Biorealism Schrodinger's @jepekar & @MichaelWorobey sez: "Wuhan cluster of infections ident…
@BiophysicsFL @kellywind @Biorealism Schrodinger's @jepekar & @MichaelWorobey sez: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event.......analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October to mid-November of 2019" https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @mbalter @MJnanostretch @DavidBahry @dkupiecki @jhouse678 @Ayjchan Earliest *known* cluster has nothing at all to do w…
@mbalter @MJnanostretch @DavidBahry @dkupiecki @jhouse678 @Ayjchan Earliest *known* cluster has nothing at all to do with the actual earliest cluster, which remains unknown. Listen to @MichaelWorobey & @jepekar -- the "experts" https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster of infections in late Dec..may not have represented the initiating event..."
RT @Rebecca21951651: @alchemytoday @JamieMetzl Depends which Schrodinger's @jepekar you go with: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified…
RT @Rebecca21951651: @levine2001 @natashaloder @Ayjchan @MarionKoopmans @TheaKFischer @DrMikeRyan Or, heck @MichaelWorobey -- https://t.co…
@levine2001 @natashaloder @Ayjchan @MarionKoopmans @TheaKFischer @DrMikeRyan Or, heck @MichaelWorobey -- https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event. ...This analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October "
RT @Rebecca21951651:
RT @Rebecca21951651: @Ayjchan @flodebarre @natashaloder And, in any case, @MichaelWorobey tells us: "Wuhan cluster of infections identifie…
@Ayjchan @flodebarre @natashaloder And, in any case, @MichaelWorobey tells us: "Wuhan cluster of infections identified in late December of 2019 may not have represented the initiating event...analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October" https://t.co/qxDykEYtsp
RT @Rebecca21951651: @VBruttel @natashaloder @Kingkiko61
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province | Science https://t.co/i15vhK4V7a
RT @AntGDuarte: @dreasmo @MichaelWorobey @PeterDaszak Thanks for pointing this out! Let me take the opportunity to add some other reasons…
@dreasmo @MichaelWorobey @PeterDaszak Thanks for pointing this out! Let me take the opportunity to add some other reasons why the choice of cities above is misleading. Quotes and screenshots from the supplementary file of Pekar et al "Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei Province"
@_everythingism @PartiallyVeiled @ydeigin Where did the data come from to produce this? https://t.co/620EZWzuDB
@Florin_Uncovers Pekar, Worobey et al ["Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province"]: Our results define period b/w mid-Oct & mid-Nov 2019 as plausible interval when 1st case of SARS-CoV-2 emerged in China. DOI: 10.1126/science.abm44. How did their 2022 papers pass peer review?
@Ayjchan Remind me: has Pekar2021 been corrected? updated? refuted? “Our results define the period between mid-October and mid-November 2019 as the plausible interval when the first case of SARS-CoV-2 emerged” https://t.co/WMtzxoDa44 https://t.co/a2XlWKEZtI
RT @biorxivpreprint: Timing the SARS-CoV-2 Index Case in Hubei Province https://t.co/lz1XWa515H #bioRxiv
"Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province" https://t.co/qXcgCPLqkz
@JohnDPMorgan Edited from Fig. 2 of Pekar et al. "Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province" (2021), see: https://t.co/9uh7O93P4u
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province: https://t.co/NI8R9MZuwr
@Varro_Analytics @carlzimmer Worobey claims to correct this bias; but Pekar, Worobey et al [Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province] state: "results define period b/w mid-Oct & mid-Nov 2019 as the plausible interval when the first case of SARS-CoV-2 emerged in Hubei province, China." Wrong then?
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/mEDgiQQwnm
@stuartjdneil @scotub Kumar et al. (2022) are citing the 2021 paper by Pekar et al. in Science: 'Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province'. Not their 2022 preprint. https://t.co/FffdYSpSl5
@BiophysicsFL "In this sense, Pekar et al. (2021) have likely dated an event that occurred downstream of the MRCA." [However, this Pekar et al. ref should be 'Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province', not the Virological post listed in the references, right @sergeilkp?]
@DFisman @Ayjchan @verswagon Pekar, Worobey et al [Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province, Science, 2021] state: "Our results define the period between mid-October and mid-November 2019 as the plausible interval when the first case of SARS-CoV-2 emerged in Hubei province, China." Credulous press
RT @IbnNadjar: How can Worobey take part in this paper (Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province) and not mention this conclusion…
RT @IbnNadjar: How can Worobey take part in this paper (Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province) and not mention this conclusion…
How can Worobey take part in this paper (Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province) and not mention this conclusion from it or use it in his new paper where he takes the earliest case to be 10/12/2029 ?!?!??!?!? FTO @Daoyu15 https://t.co/irrxqAXb3h
@stuartjdneil @MJnanostretch …but not necessary or useful to invoke such scenarios. A unknown disease which is often non- or weakly-symptomatic can move through a city without a trace. The plausible interval for unknown first case has been estimated as mid-Oct to mid-Nov 2019. https://t.co/HwE0XQ6G8N
2/ Worobey also quotes 18 Nov as the “mean estimated date of pandemic index case” citing Pekar But Abstract of Pekar says, “our results define the period between MID-OCT AND MID-NOV 2019 as the plausible interval when the first case of SARS-CoV-2 emerged” https://t.co/ZmLVsok7F4 https://t.co/Z7n1bHFtdM
RT @PatrickSSte: 20/ However, this is a mis-quote by Worobey Pekar et al. define “the period between mid-October and mid-November 2019" as…
26/ If this turns out to be correct, Pekar’s period between mid-October and mid-November 2019 corresponds not to the index case of Covid-19 as a whole as they suggest, but to the index case a more-transmissible variant, which now dominates https://t.co/ZmLVsok7F4
RT @PatrickSSte: @ColinDavdButler Worobey estimates the "index case" was 18 Nov. I'm suggesting this wasn't the first CoV-2 case in humans…
@ColinDavdButler Worobey estimates the "index case" was 18 Nov. I'm suggesting this wasn't the first CoV-2 case in humans (because it was far too well-adapted/stable by Dec) but the first case of a more transmissible variant. Names released when it couldn't be hidden https://t.co/ZmLVsok7F4
@past_is_future @lab_leak @henri_mourant @DaveAtkinsonMD @PeaseRoland @angie_rasmussen @MichaelWorobey @ggronvall @PeterDaszak @MarionKoopmans @WildCRU_Ox @VIDOInterVac @usask @BBCWorld @jbloom_lab @Ayjchan This is a ground breaking article written by a top journalist who had access to official records. It's deservedly quoted by @MichaelWorobey et al. in their important paper "Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province". https://t.co/gHE1lNPgLW https://t.co/fcMMZMFRAC
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Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/tw6ZL6hD7K
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
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RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
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2021/4 Science Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/n68v7nWBMc
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RT @PhraAthit: Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province This study comes to the conclusion that the pandemic started between mid-…
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province This study comes to the conclusion that the pandemic started between mid-October and mid-November 2019, i.e. much earlier than the official timing. https://t.co/sqm4817Rox
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Pz4HpzMZ7L
@Alex_on_A14 @babarlelephant @UK_Centrist Here's the Science paper that attempts to run the tape backwards: Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/PwEjtEoZeb
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/y0nG4UEzf4
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RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @aklecz: 2/3 of introductions would have failed Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/TkVNfCxC1Z
2/3 of introductions would have failed Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/TkVNfCxC1Z
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province The article defines the period from mid-October to mid-November 2019 as the plausible interval when the first case of #SARSCoV2 emerged in Hubei province.
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/X5ufx9TTMq
Brilliant paper. Stunning experimental design. Top ten of the century for me. Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/dTjWjsouUY
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @Thomas_Wilckens: Missed it? Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/N2vKFbCQUP #Coronavirus may have emerged e…
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province | Science https://t.co/crbIzlbWL1
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
Corona Ausbruch bereits im November oder früher Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/BfFOt3Y3eZ
Missed it? Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/N2vKFbCQUP #Coronavirus may have emerged earlier than thought @ScienceMagazine https://t.co/FmCPGtSIqj
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Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province: https://t.co/e2l9sVmbOI
The AAAS "Science" report the above SCMP story is based upon: "Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province" https://t.co/oJko8vmjgK
Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province | Science https://t.co/dSWq5YRBwY
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RT @Thomas_Wilckens: Novel #Coronavirus Circulated Undetected for Months Before First #COVID19 Cases Discovered in Wuhan, China #Pandemic h…
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RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
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Novel #Coronavirus Circulated Undetected for Months Before First #COVID19 Cases Discovered in Wuhan, China #Pandemic https://t.co/LBv9RV5tui "Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province" https://t.co/x7MYfHxD5P @ScienceMagazine https://t.co/w15DxensgM
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
RT @jsdfposjpqyuee1: 《科学》刚刚发表的研究成果，通过模型推测新冠病毒疫情最有可能出现在2019年10月中旬至11月中旬 Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province https://t.co/Lvy…
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Timing the SARS-CoV-2 index case in Hubei province » https://t.co/cYfCpK2Ada #SARSCoV2 circulated undetected months before first #2019nCoV #COVID19 cases in #Wuhan, #China: study @UCSanDiego @ScienceMagazine https://t.co/b7kA2qLtte
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